Solo 401k: Calculating Profit Sharing Contribution Limits for Side Business
My wife is trying to figure out how much she can contribute as profit sharing to her solo 401k from her side hustle. Here's our situation: She maxed out her employee contribution ($22,500) at her regular W2 job for 2024. For her side business: - She's self-employed with zero employees - Made about $19,750 in gross income - No business expenses to deduct - Already hit Social Security tax cap at her day job - Paid roughly $527 in Medicare tax (about $263 is deductible) - Hasn't made any employee deferrals to her solo 401k from this income - Wants to know the maximum profit sharing amount she can contribute! I'm getting confused trying to calculate this. Can she contribute 20% of her net earnings ($19,750 - $263 = $19,487)? Or is it 20% of her QBI? The whole thing gets circular because I thought QBI includes retirement contributions, but retirement contributions depend on QBI? Anyone who's dealt with solo 401k profit sharing for side gigs want to help me figure this out?
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Kendrick Webb
The calculation for solo 401k profit sharing (employer contribution) is based on net self-employment income after deducting the self-employment tax deduction, but before deducting any retirement contributions. For your wife's situation, you'd start with her gross receipts of $19,750, multiply by 0.9235 (to account for the self-employment tax deduction) to get $18,239. Since she's already maxed the employee contribution at her W2 job, she can contribute up to 20% of this amount as a profit-sharing contribution to her solo 401k. So her maximum profit-sharing contribution would be approximately $3,648 (20% of $18,239). This isn't related to QBI (Qualified Business Income) deduction, which is a separate tax benefit. The 20% QBI deduction doesn't affect retirement contribution calculations - they're separate calculations.
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Hattie Carson
Wait, I'm confused about something. I thought the calculation was 25% of compensation, not 20%. Isn't it 25% of Schedule C profit minus half the self-employment tax? Or is it different for sole proprietors vs corporations?
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Kendrick Webb
Great question! The confusion comes from the difference between incorporated and unincorporated businesses. For corporations (including S-corps), the limit is 25% of compensation because you're considered an employee of your corporation. For sole proprietors and single-member LLCs (reporting on Schedule C), the effective rate is 20% of net self-employment income. This is because you calculate it as 25% of net earnings after deducting the retirement contribution itself. The math works out to approximately 20% of your net self-employment earnings before the deduction. The formula gets a bit circular, which is why the IRS effectively lets sole proprietors use the simplified 20% calculation. It's the same end result without having to solve the equation.
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Destiny Bryant
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Dyllan Nantx
Does it also explain if you need to set up the solo 401k through your side gig business before the end of the calendar year? I heard there's a deadline for establishing the plan even if you don't fund it until tax filing time.
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TillyCombatwarrior
How does it handle the situation where you have multiple side businesses? I have my regular W2 job but also do consulting and sell handmade items online. Would it be able to calculate my maximum contribution across all income sources?
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Destiny Bryant
Yes, you do need to establish the solo 401k plan before December 31st of the tax year, though you can fund the employer contribution portion until your tax filing deadline including extensions. The tool reminds you of these deadlines and walks you through the setup process. For multiple side businesses, it handles that situation perfectly. I actually started a second side gig midway through last year, and the tool combined all my income sources correctly. It even explained how to allocate the contributions between businesses if you want to track them separately for bookkeeping purposes.
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Nadia Zaldivar
Don't forget about the overall contribution limits! For 2024, the total limit for all 401k contributions (employee + employer) across ALL your plans is $69,000. So if your wife already maxed out her employee contribution at $22,500, she can still do the profit sharing from her side gig up to the limit. But remember, the $22,500 employee deferral limit applies across ALL your 401k plans combined - you can't do $22,500 in one job and another $22,500 in your side gig. But the profit sharing portion is separate and based on the specific business's income.
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Norman Fraser
AuthorThanks for mentioning this! I was aware of the overall limit but it's good to have it confirmed. So basically her employee contribution of $22,500 from her W2 job counts toward that $69,000 total limit, leaving $46,500 of potential "space" for the profit sharing contribution from her side business (though her actual limit would be the 20% calculation we discussed above).
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Nadia Zaldivar
Exactly! You've got it right. The $22,500 employee deferral takes up part of the $69,000 total limit, leaving $46,500 potentially available for profit sharing. But in your wife's case, with the income level you mentioned, her profit sharing contribution will be much lower than that remaining limit. Also, don't forget that if your wife is over 50, she can make an additional $7,500 catch-up contribution as an employee deferral (across all plans), which doesn't count against the $69,000 limit.
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Lukas Fitzgerald
Has anyone used a specific solo 401k provider they'd recommend? I'm in a similar situation with a side business and want to open one before the year-end deadline, but there are so many options.
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Ev Luca
I use Fidelity for my solo 401k and have been really happy with it. No fees, good investment options, and their customer service has been great for answering questions about contribution limits. The only downside is they don't offer Roth options for the employer/profit sharing portion, just for the employee deferrals.
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Jabari-Jo
Just wanted to add a practical tip for anyone dealing with solo 401k calculations - keep detailed records of your self-employment income and expenses throughout the year. I learned this the hard way when I was scrambling to figure out my net earnings from self-employment at tax time. For your wife's situation, the key calculation is taking her $19,750 gross income, subtracting half of the self-employment tax (which is roughly $1,393 for that income level), giving you about $18,357 in net self-employment income. Then 20% of that would be approximately $3,671 for her maximum profit sharing contribution. The Medicare tax deduction you mentioned ($263) is already factored into this calculation since it's part of the self-employment tax. Don't double-count it! The 0.9235 multiplier that others mentioned automatically accounts for this deduction.
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