Should I pay penalties and interest upfront now or wait for IRS letter on my late filing?
I'm in a bit of a mess with my taxes and could use some advice. I filed an extension for my 2024 taxes back in April 2025, but completely dropped the ball and never filed the actual return by the October deadline. I'm planning to file tomorrow (December 30th) by mail since I've missed the electronic filing window for the extended deadline. According to my calculations, I owe about $3,500 in taxes for 2024. When I used an online penalty calculator, it shows I'll owe approximately $4,398.75 total ($3,500 actual tax + $595 for failure to file + $158 for failure to pay + $145.75 in interest). Since I have to mail in my return (TurboTax won't let me e-file this late), I have a few questions: 1. Should I just pay the base tax amount ($3,500) now and wait for the IRS to send me a bill for the penalties and interest? Or should I go ahead and pay the full amount including what I calculated for penalties and interest? 2. If my return is postmarked tomorrow (December 30, 2025), does that count as my filing date, or will they consider it filed when they actually receive and process it in January 2026? 3. Is there any way to get the penalties reduced or removed? This is my first time ever owing money - I've always gotten refunds before. Really appreciate any advice!
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Diego Vargas
You should definitely pay as much as you can as soon as possible. The IRS failure-to-pay penalty continues to accrue at 0.5% per month on the unpaid tax until you pay in full (up to 25% maximum). The interest also continues to compound daily until everything is paid. The good news is that the postmark date is what counts as your filing date, not when the IRS actually receives it. So if you get it postmarked by December 30, 2025, that's considered your filing date. Just make sure you send it certified mail with return receipt requested so you have proof of when you mailed it. As for penalty relief, since this is your first time missing deadlines, you might qualify for First-Time Penalty Abatement. This is available if you haven't had any significant penalties in the past 3 tax years and have filed all required returns and paid (or arranged to pay) any tax due. You'll need to specifically request this after you receive a penalty notice from the IRS. I recommend paying the full amount you calculated (including penalties and interest) rather than just the base tax. This way, if your calculations are correct, you'll stop further penalties and interest from accruing. If you overpay, the IRS will refund the difference.
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NeonNinja
•Is there a specific form to request the First-Time Penalty Abatement? My situation is similar but for 2023 taxes.
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Diego Vargas
•There's no specific form for requesting First-Time Penalty Abatement. The best way to request it is to call the IRS directly after you receive your first notice showing the penalties. When you call, specifically ask for "First-Time Penalty Abatement" relief. Alternatively, you can write a penalty abatement letter referencing IRS policy statement 20-1. If you're requesting it for 2023 taxes, make sure you've filed all required returns for tax years 2020, 2021, and 2022, and that you've paid (or arranged to pay) all taxes due for those years. The IRS looks at your compliance history for the three prior years when considering First-Time Abatement requests.
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Anastasia Popov
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Sean Murphy
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Zara Khan
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Anastasia Popov
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Sean Murphy
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Nia Davis
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Zara Khan
•Yeah right. No way this actually gets you through to the IRS faster than anyone else. The IRS phone system is completely broken - I spent literally 4 hours on hold last month before giving up. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Zara Khan
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Mateo Martinez
To answer your specific questions directly: 1. Always pay as much as you can as soon as possible. At minimum, pay the base tax amount immediately, but ideally pay your calculated penalties and interest too. This stops or reduces additional interest from accruing. 2. The postmark date is what counts as your filing date, not when the IRS processes it. Make sure to use certified mail with tracking so you have proof of the postmark date. 3. Since this is your first time missing deadlines, you should definitely request First-Time Penalty Abatement (FTA) after you receive a notice from the IRS. The IRS won't automatically apply this - you have to request it. It can remove the failure-to-file and failure-to-pay penalties, though you'll still owe interest. One more tip: If you can't pay the full amount right away, submit Form 9465 with your return to request an installment agreement. This won't eliminate penalties but can make them more manageable.
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Chloe Harris
•Thank you for the clear answers! If I pay the full amount I calculated (including penalties and interest) with my return, should I still expect to receive a notice from the IRS that I can then respond to with an FTA request? Or do I need to send the FTA request proactively?
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Mateo Martinez
•You should still expect to receive a notice from the IRS even if you pay the full amount including penalties and interest. The IRS will send you a notice detailing the exact penalties and interest they've assessed. After you receive this notice, then you should respond with your FTA request. I wouldn't recommend sending the FTA request proactively because you need the specific notice number to reference in your request. Plus, the IRS prefers to process these requests in response to their notices. Just make your payment, wait for their notice (which might take 1-3 months), and then submit your FTA request by calling the number on the notice or writing a letter in response.
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QuantumQueen
Has anyone tried FreeTaxUSA for filing prior year returns? TurboTax won't let me e-file my late 2024 return either, and I'm trying to figure out if there's ANY software that will let me e-file rather than mail it in.
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Aisha Rahman
•I tried both FreeTaxUSA and TaxAct last year for a late 2023 return, and neither would allow e-filing for prior year returns. The IRS only accepts e-filing for current year returns. For prior years, you have to print and mail. It's annoying but that's the system.
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QuantumQueen
•Thanks for the info! That's frustrating but good to know. I'll stop wasting time looking for an e-filing option and just get it in the mail ASAP.
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Nolan Carter
I'm dealing with a similar situation right now! Filed my extension but completely forgot about the October deadline. One thing I learned from calling the IRS (after waiting on hold for literally 3 hours) is that you can also request penalty relief for "reasonable cause" if you have a valid reason for the delay - like serious illness, natural disaster, or other circumstances beyond your control. Even if you don't qualify for First-Time Penalty Abatement, it's worth documenting any legitimate reasons you had for missing the deadline. The IRS agent I spoke with said they evaluate each case individually for reasonable cause relief. Also, make sure you include Form 4868 with your late return if you didn't file an extension originally, or attach a copy of your extension if you did file one. This shows the IRS your filing history and can help with penalty calculations. Good luck getting this sorted out! The stress is real but it sounds like you have a solid plan to get caught up.
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Mohamed Anderson
•That's really helpful info about the reasonable cause relief! I didn't know that was separate from the First-Time Penalty Abatement. Do you happen to know if there's a specific form for requesting reasonable cause relief, or is it also done by calling/writing a letter like the FTA? Also, thanks for the tip about including Form 4868 - I did file an extension back in April, so I'll make sure to attach a copy of that with my return to show I wasn't completely negligent about the whole thing. The 3-hour hold time sounds brutal though. I might look into that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier to avoid that nightmare!
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