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Molly Chambers

If you owe taxes to the IRS, does payment timing matter between January 1 and April 15th?

So I royally screwed up my withholding calculations for 2024 and now I'm looking at owing a hefty amount to the IRS. Not just the tax itself, but they're hitting me with penalties and probably interest too (ugh). What I'm trying to figure out is whether there's any advantage to biting the bullet and filing early in February versus waiting until the April 15th deadline? Like, will I save anything on interest or penalties by filing and paying sooner rather than later? I'm already stressed about the amount I'll need to pay, so even saving a little would help. I'm also wondering if the IRS treats the payment and filing as separate things - like can I file early but still pay on April 15th without extra penalties? Any advice from people who've been in this situation would be super helpful!

Ian Armstrong

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Filing early when you owe taxes is usually a good idea. Here's why: while the IRS doesn't charge extra penalties for filing close to the deadline, interest on what you owe accrues daily starting from the due date. So filing early doesn't change the amount you owe, but it gives you more time to arrange payment. However, there's an important distinction between filing and paying. You can file your return in February and not pay until April 15th without additional penalties. The failure-to-pay penalty (usually 0.5% per month) and interest don't start until after the April 15th deadline. If you're facing a significant tax bill, you might want to consider an installment agreement with the IRS. Filing early gives you more time to set this up before the payment deadline hits.

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Eli Butler

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Does this also apply to estimated tax payments that I might have missed during the year? I'm self-employed and probably underpaid my quarterlies.

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Ian Armstrong

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That's a different situation. For estimated tax payments, penalties for underpayment are calculated based on how much you underpaid each quarter. Filing early won't reduce those penalties since they're based on the due dates of each quarterly payment. If you missed or underpaid estimated tax payments, you might be subject to the underpayment penalty regardless of when you file your annual return. However, filing early still helps you identify the total amount you owe sooner, giving you more time to plan for payment.

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Lydia Bailey

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How long did it take for you to get the analysis back? I'm cutting it pretty close to the deadline already.

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Mateo Warren

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I'm skeptical about these AI tax tools. Did it actually give advice specific to your situation or just general information you could find on the IRS website?

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The analysis came back in less than an hour! It's pretty quick because it's automated, but still thorough. That's one reason I liked it when I was stressing about deadline timing. It definitely gave me specific advice for my situation, not just generic info. For example, it calculated my exact underpayment penalty based on my income fluctuations throughout the year and showed me how my specific deductions would offset some of that. The IRS website has the formulas but doesn't calculate it for your specific numbers or explain it in plain English like taxr.ai did.

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Mateo Warren

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I need to eat my words from my previous comment. After being skeptical, I decided to try taxr.ai anyway since my tax situation this year got complicated with a side business and investment losses. The tool actually found that I qualified for the safe harbor provision based on my previous year's tax payment, which meant I could avoid some of the estimated tax penalties I was worried about! It also gave me a clear breakdown of exactly how much interest would accumulate if I waited until April to pay versus paying now. Ended up saving about $240 by understanding exactly which parts to pay early. The analysis highlighted that while the failure-to-pay penalty starts after April 15th, interest on unpaid estimated tax payments was already accumulating from each quarterly due date. Sometimes it's worth checking out the tools other people recommend here instead of just being stubborn like me!

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Sofia Price

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If you're going to owe the IRS a significant amount, another thing to consider is that contacting them directly can sometimes help with penalty abatement, especially if this is your first time making this mistake. The problem is actually REACHING someone at the IRS - I spent 3+ hours on hold last time I tried. I used https://claimyr.com and it was a game-changer. They hold your place in the IRS phone queue and call you when an agent is about to answer. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. I was able to talk to an actual IRS agent who helped me understand my payment options and the potential for first-time penalty abatement in my case. For your situation, an IRS agent could tell you exactly how penalties and interest would be calculated between now and April, which helps with making an informed decision about when to file and pay.

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Alice Coleman

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How does this even work? Seems sketchy that a third party could somehow get you through the IRS phone system faster.

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Owen Jenkins

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Yeah right. I've heard about services claiming to help with IRS contact but they never work. The IRS phone system is deliberately designed to be impossible. I'll believe it when I see evidence this actually works for regular people.

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Sofia Price

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It works by using an automated system that navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold for you. It doesn't get you through faster - you still have the same wait time - but you don't have to sit there listening to hold music for hours. Their system monitors the call and alerts you when a human is about to pick up. I had the exact same skepticism you do. But it's not about cutting the line, it's about not wasting your day on hold. I was able to go about my normal activities and got a call back when my turn actually came up about 2.5 hours later. The IRS has no idea you used a service - when they pick up, you're the one talking to them.

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Owen Jenkins

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I have to admit I was completely wrong about Claimyr. After posting that skeptical comment, I decided to try it anyway because I was desperate to talk to someone about my payment plan options. The service did exactly what it said - held my place in line for 3 hours and 17 minutes (!!!) and then called me when an agent was about to pick up. I was able to discuss my situation with the IRS agent and learned I qualified for a first-time penalty abatement that saved me over $400. The agent also explained exactly how interest accrues between filing early and the April deadline. For the original poster's question: the IRS agent confirmed that while penalties don't start until after April 15th, if you owed estimated tax payments throughout the year, interest has already been accruing on those missed payments. Filing early gives you clarity on exactly what you owe.

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Lilah Brooks

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To directly answer your question - the failure-to-pay penalty (0.5% per month) and interest (current federal rate + 3%) don't start until AFTER April 15th for your regular tax payment. So whether you file in February or April, those specific charges won't differ if you pay by the deadline. BUT - and this is a big but - if your "miscalculations" involve not making proper estimated tax payments throughout the year, you're already accruing penalties and interest on those missed quarterly payments. Filing early won't change those penalties, but it will give you clarity on exactly what you owe. One more important point: Filing early doesn't mean you have to pay early. You can submit your return now and schedule a payment for exactly April 15th if you want to hold onto your money longer.

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Does paying with a credit card help in this situation? I've heard the IRS credit card processing fee might be less than the interest on an installment plan.

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Lilah Brooks

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Yes, paying with a credit card can sometimes make financial sense depending on your situation. The IRS payment processors charge a fee of around 1.87% to 1.98% for credit card payments. If your credit card has a higher interest rate than the IRS installment plan (which charges about 8-10% annually right now), then the credit card isn't your best option. However, if you can pay off the credit card quickly or transfer the balance to a 0% intro APR card, then paying the one-time processing fee might be cheaper than the IRS installment plan. Just make sure you factor in both the processing fee and any potential credit card interest when making your decision.

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Kolton Murphy

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Random tip from someone who's been in your shoes - if this is your first time having a significant underpayment, look into "first-time penalty abatement" from the IRS. You might qualify to have penalties (but not interest) waived if you have a clean compliance history for the past 3 years. I owed a bunch in 2022 and got the penalty portion removed completely by just asking for this consideration. Saved me almost $700!

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Evelyn Rivera

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Can confirm this works! I got a first-time abatement last year and it was surprisingly easy. Just had to make a phone call and ask. They didn't even ask for any documentation.

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Luca Ferrari

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Just wanted to add my experience to this discussion - I was in almost the exact same situation last year with messed up withholdings from a job change mid-year. The key thing I learned is that filing early is definitely worth it even if you can't pay immediately. Like others mentioned, you can file your return now and schedule the payment for April 15th without any additional penalties. This gives you the peace of mind of knowing exactly what you owe and lets you plan accordingly. One thing that helped me was setting up automatic payments through EFTPS (Electronic Federal Tax Payment System) right after I filed. You can schedule the payment weeks in advance for exactly April 15th, so there's no risk of missing the deadline or having to scramble at the last minute. Also, if you're really strapped for cash, consider paying just enough by April 15th to avoid the failure-to-pay penalty (which is pretty steep), and then set up an installment agreement for the rest. The installment plan interest rate is usually more reasonable than credit card rates, and you avoid the bigger penalties.

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