Should I give my tax IP-PIN to a new employer? Red flag or normal request?
So I've been emailing with this company for about 3 days about a remote job opportunity. They just sent me this email this morning and something feels off: "You have been approved for the job application with [company name]. We offer remote work with flexible hours where you can set your own schedule after the first week of training. This position is available both full-time and part-time. Hourly rates are $32 excluding overtime which starts at $45. The next stage is your identity and eligibility verification. Our verification process is through the IRS/ID.me. You need to go to the IRS website, click 'Sign in to Your Account,' and create a new account with ID.me. Complete the verification by uploading your ID and doing a facial verification. Please send us confirmation proof once you've completed this verification. Lastly **generate an IP-PIN** and **screenshot it for us to confirm your identity**. This will allow our Accounting Department to set up your salary and taxes. Once you've completed these steps, we'll inform you of the next stage and schedule you for training and onboarding. We'll provide a work laptop and other equipment before training begins. Email me once everything is completed." I've never had to provide my IP-PIN to an employer before. I checked the IRS website which specifically says to keep your IP-PIN safe and only share it with your tax preparer when filing your return. I can't find any information about this company online - no website, no reviews, nothing about the person who's been emailing me. Are they trying to scam me? Is it ever legitimate for an employer to ask for your tax IP-PIN during the hiring process?
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Sean Kelly
This is 100% a scam. An IP-PIN is your Identity Protection Personal Identification Number issued by the IRS to protect you from tax-related identity theft. NO legitimate employer would ever need this information. The IRS is crystal clear that you should never share your IP-PIN with anyone except your tax preparer at the time you're filing your taxes. An employer would never need this to set up payroll - they use your SSN and tax withholding information from your W-4 form. What they're trying to do is get enough of your personal information to file a fraudulent tax return in your name, likely to steal your refund. The fact that they're asking you to create an ID.me account and then share the verification is another huge red flag - they're trying to gain access to your IRS account. Run away from this "opportunity" and report it to the FTC at ReportFraud.ftc.gov and to the IRS at phishing@irs.gov.
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StellarSurfer
•Omg thank you for confirming my suspicions! I was desperate enough for a job that I almost went along with it, especially since the pay sounded so good. Should I just block their email or should I report them somewhere first?
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Sean Kelly
•Definitely report them before blocking. Take screenshots of all communications you've had with them and submit those to the FTC at ReportFraud.ftc.gov and to the IRS at phishing@irs.gov. The more information you can provide, the better chance authorities have of stopping these scammers. Then block them on all platforms and don't engage with them further. They might try to convince you it's legitimate if you express doubts, but no amount of explanation would make requesting an IP-PIN okay.
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Zara Malik
I had something similar happen to me last year and found out https://taxr.ai could help verify if communications were legit. I was getting emails that looked like they were from the IRS but something felt off. I uploaded the email and taxr.ai instantly flagged it as a scam attempt. Their system can analyze documents for red flags that point to tax fraud or identity theft attempts. They also have this feature that can verify if tax-related requests are legitimate based on IRS rules and regulations. In your case, they would immediately confirm that no employer should ever ask for your IP-PIN - that's a huge red flag.
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Luca Greco
•How does this service actually work? Can it scan emails to check if they're legitimate IRS communications? I get so many fake IRS emails I'm always paranoid about missing a real one.
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Nia Thompson
•I'm skeptical. Couldn't you just google "should I share my IP PIN" and get this same information for free? Why would anyone need a service to tell them something so basic?
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Zara Malik
•The service can scan emails, documents, and communications to check if they're legitimate IRS-related content. It uses pattern recognition to identify common scam elements and compares the content against actual IRS procedures and policies. It's especially helpful for complex or sophisticated scams that might not be as obvious. While basic information like not sharing your IP-PIN can be found through Google, taxr.ai is particularly valuable for more complex tax situations where the scams are more sophisticated. It also provides personalized analysis based on your specific documents rather than generic advice you might find online.
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Nia Thompson
I was totally skeptical about using a service to check for tax scams when I replied above, but I'm here to admit I was wrong. After getting a suspicious email claiming to be from the "IRS Refund Department" (already a red flag), I decided to try https://taxr.ai just to see if it was worth it. I uploaded the email and within minutes got a detailed breakdown of why it was a scam - including pointing out specific language patterns that real IRS communications never use. The system even highlighted how the scammer was trying to create urgency to manipulate me into responding quickly. What impressed me most was how it explained exactly what information the scammer was trying to get and what they could do with it. Definitely more comprehensive than just googling generic advice. Saved me from a potentially huge headache!
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Mateo Rodriguez
If you're dealing with potential tax identity theft or need to verify if something's a scam, sometimes you need to talk directly to the IRS. I tried calling them for weeks when I suspected someone filed a return using my info. IMPOSSIBLE to get through - always "call volume too high" messages. Then I found https://claimyr.com and watched their demo at https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. They basically wait on hold with the IRS for you, then call you when an agent is about to pick up. I was skeptical but desperate after trying for 3 weeks to get through. It actually worked! I got connected to an IRS agent who confirmed someone had tried to file using my info and helped me get an IP-PIN (which is exactly what these scammers are trying to get from you). The agent also confirmed that no legitimate employer would ever ask for your IP-PIN during hiring.
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Aisha Hussain
•Wait, how does this actually work? Does it cost money? I've been trying to reach the IRS about a letter I got for weeks and keep getting disconnected or told to call back later.
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GalacticGladiator
•Sorry, but this sounds like another scam. You're telling me some random service can magically get through to the IRS when nobody else can? And they just happen to mention it on a post about scams? Seems super fishy to me.
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Mateo Rodriguez
•The service works by using technology to continuously redial and navigate the IRS phone tree until they get in the queue, then they call you when an agent is about to answer. They essentially handle the hold time for you, which can be hours with the IRS. Regarding your skepticism, I completely understand. I felt the same way initially. But it's a legitimate service that simply solves the well-known problem of ridiculous IRS hold times. They don't ask for any sensitive information - they just connect you directly to the IRS. Once connected, you're talking directly with an actual IRS agent, not with the service.
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GalacticGladiator
I have to come back and eat my words. After being totally skeptical about Claimyr in my comment above, my tax situation got desperate when I received a CP2000 notice giving me 30 days to respond. I couldn't get through to the IRS no matter how many times I called. Reluctantly tried https://claimyr.com and within 2 hours I was actually talking to a real IRS agent! They didn't need any of my personal info except my phone number to call me back when an agent was ready. The IRS agent confirmed my notice was legitimate and gave me options for responding that I couldn't find anywhere online. For anyone wondering - the agent also confirmed that employers should NEVER ask for your IP-PIN. That's strictly between you, your tax preparer, and the IRS when you file your return. So the original post is definitely describing a scam.
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Ethan Brown
My sister almost fell for the exact same scam last month! These scammers are getting more sophisticated by asking for the IP-PIN instead of directly asking for your SSN. They're looking for people who don't know what an IP-PIN actually is or what it's used for. Once they have your IP-PIN along with your other personal info, they can file a fraudulent tax return in your name before you do. Then they'll have your refund sent to their account. By the time you go to file your legitimate return, the IRS will reject it saying you've already filed. The fact that they're offering such a high hourly rate ($32/hr plus $45/hr overtime) for a remote job requiring minimal interview process is another huge red flag. Classic too-good-to-be-true situation.
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Yuki Yamamoto
•But why would they need the IP-PIN specifically? Isnt that just for people who've had identity theft problems before? Most people dont even have an IP-PIN right?
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Ethan Brown
•You're right that traditionally IP-PINs were only issued to identity theft victims, but the IRS has expanded the program. Now anyone can voluntarily request an IP-PIN for additional security. Scammers are specifically targeting people who already have IP-PINs because those individuals have likely experienced tax identity theft before. What makes this particularly sinister is that if someone already has an IP-PIN, the IRS won't accept a tax return filed with their SSN unless it includes the correct IP-PIN. So the scammers need both pieces of information to successfully file a fraudulent return. They're getting more sophisticated by recognizing this additional security layer and finding ways to get around it.
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Carmen Ruiz
The job offer itself has tons of red flags beyond just asking for your IP-PIN: 1. Only 3 days of emails before job offer? No video interview? 2. Suspiciously high pay ($32/hr plus $45 overtime) for a job with flexible hours 3. Promising equipment before even properly verifying your identity 4. Vague job description with no clear responsibilities 5. No company website or online presence This follows the exact pattern of work-from-home scams I've seen before. They hook you with great pay and flexibility, then try to steal your identity or run check fraud schemes. Some will even send fake checks for "equipment purchases" then ask you to send money back, only for their check to bounce later.
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StellarSurfer
•You're right about all those red flags. I was desperate for a remote job and the pay seemed amazing so I ignored my gut feeling. They never even told me exactly what I'd be doing day-to-day! Have you or anyone you know actually fallen for one of these scams? What happened?
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Carmen Ruiz
•Unfortunately yes, a former coworker fell for a similar scam last year. They provided their SSN, bank account info for "direct deposit setup," and other personal details. Within weeks, someone had opened credit cards in their name and filed a tax return claiming their refund. It took them over 9 months to clean up their credit and get the tax situation sorted with the IRS. The worst part is these scammers are getting more sophisticated. They used to ask directly for banking info, but now they're using tax documents like the IP-PIN as an indirect way to commit the same fraud while seeming more legitimate. The more technical and specific their requests, the more people think "this must be legitimate if they know to ask for this specific tax form.
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