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Laila Prince

Should I form a corporation in Wyoming for tax benefits? Any downsides?

I'm launching a software startup with two business partners and trying to figure out the best place to incorporate. So many blogs and YouTube videos keep pushing Wyoming and Delaware as these tax havens with lower fees and better business environment. My home state has a 4% corporate tax rate on taxable income, which isn't terrible but obviously I want to minimize expenses as we get this business off the ground. For those who've actually done this (not just read about it), what are the real disadvantages of incorporating in Wyoming or Delaware instead of just doing it locally? Are there hidden costs or complications I'm not considering? Do I need to maintain a physical presence there? Will I still end up paying taxes in my home state anyway? I want to make a smart decision based on actual experience, not just what some incorporation service is trying to sell me. Thanks in advance for any insights!

Isabel Vega

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While Wyoming and Delaware offer tax advantages, there are several important disadvantages to consider before forming an "out-of-state" or foreign corporation: First, you'll likely need to register as a "foreign corporation" in your home state anyway if you're physically operating there. This means you'll end up paying registration fees in BOTH states - the initial formation state (Wyoming/Delaware) AND your home state. These dual fees continue annually. You'll also need a registered agent in the foreign state, which is another ongoing cost. While not extremely expensive ($100-300/year), it's a perpetual expense. Tax-wise, you'll generally pay state taxes where you actually conduct business, not where you're incorporated. So if your operations are in your home state, you'll likely still owe that 4% corporate tax regardless of where you incorporate. The Wyoming/Delaware advantage makes more sense for certain situations: multi-state operations, specific liability protections, or when planning for venture capital (Delaware specifically). For a small software startup operating primarily in one state, the administrative complexity and dual costs often outweigh the benefits.

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Does this change at all if the business is primarily online? Like if we're selling software subscriptions globally, not just in our home state?

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Isabel Vega

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For online businesses, it does create some additional considerations, but doesn't completely eliminate the home state requirements. If your management team, developers, and business operations are physically located in your home state, you'll still have substantial nexus there for tax purposes. For global subscription services, you may benefit from Wyoming's lack of state income tax if you can establish significant operations there. However, most states use various factors to determine tax liability including where your management decisions are made, where employees work, and where your significant business activities occur.

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Marilyn Dixon

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How accurate was their analysis? Did it account for things like franchise taxes and registered agent fees? I'm skeptical of online tools that claim to do complicated multi-state tax analysis.

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TommyKapitz

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Does it also cover S-Corps? My accountant keeps pushing me to switch from LLC to S-Corp for self-employment tax savings, but I'm not sure how that interacts with out-of-state incorporation.

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Marilyn Dixon

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Their analysis was surprisingly comprehensive - it definitely included both franchise taxes and registered agent fees. They also factored in the ongoing annual report costs in both states. What impressed me was that it wasn't just generalized advice - it used my specific revenue projections and business activities to create the comparison. For S-Corps, yes they definitely cover those too. The tool actually compared LLC vs S-Corp scenarios for me as well. It showed how the self-employment tax savings might be offset by higher compliance costs or additional state filings depending on your situation. The analysis revealed that S-Corp benefits can vary substantially based on your salary level versus distributions.

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Amun-Ra Azra

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As someone who actually incorporated in Wyoming while living in California, I can share some real-world experience. The Wyoming part was easy and cheap. But then I had to register as a foreign entity in California anyway, pay the $800 annual franchise tax, plus filing fees in both states. My effective tax burden didn't change at all - CA still taxed all income attributable to my California operations (which was practically everything). The only real advantage was Wyoming's privacy protections, but those aren't relevant for most small businesses. If you're actually operating in your home state, the "Delaware/Wyoming strategy" is usually MORE expensive, not less.

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Summer Green

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Did you find any advantages at all to the Wyoming incorporation? Was there anything that made the extra paperwork worth it?

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Amun-Ra Azra

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Honestly, for a small software company, there were almost no advantages that justified the extra complexity. The privacy benefits (Wyoming doesn't list owner names on public documents) might matter for some people, but weren't meaningful for our business. What I didn't anticipate was the psychological burden of keeping track of two state filing requirements, two annual reports, and making sure our registered agent in Wyoming was properly maintained. It was just extra administrative overhead with no real tax benefit, since our home state claimed nexus on our business activities anyway.

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Gael Robinson

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What about asset protection though? I've heard Wyoming has stronger charging order protection for LLCs, which is supposedly important if you get sued personally.

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Those protections primarily apply if you're sued personally and someone tries to go after your LLC membership interest. But if your BUSINESS gets sued, you'll be dealing with the courts in whatever state the business activity occurred in. So if you're operating in your home state, that's likely where any business litigation would happen anyway.

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I went through this exact decision process last year and ended up staying in my home state after consulting with a tax attorney. Here's what I learned that might help: The key question isn't just about corporate tax rates - it's about where your business has "nexus" (substantial connection). Even if you incorporate in Wyoming, if your team, operations, and management are in your home state, you'll likely still owe taxes there on income generated from those activities. For a software startup, consider these factors: - Where are your developers and key employees located? - Where do you make major business decisions? - Where are your servers/infrastructure hosted? - Where are your customers primarily located? If most of these point to your home state, Wyoming incorporation likely won't provide the tax benefits you're hoping for. You'll end up paying for dual state compliance without meaningful tax savings. The exception might be if you're planning to distribute the business across multiple states from the start, or if you're specifically targeting venture capital (where Delaware incorporation is often preferred). For a straightforward software startup with co-located founders, local incorporation is usually the most cost-effective path. Focus your energy on building the product rather than complex multi-state corporate structures.

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NebulaNomad

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This is exactly the kind of practical advice I was looking for! The nexus concept makes so much sense when you break it down like that. Since all three of us founders are in the same state and we're planning to work from a shared office space here initially, it sounds like we'd definitely have substantial nexus in our home state regardless of where we incorporate. I'm curious about the venture capital angle you mentioned - is Delaware incorporation something we should consider even if we're not actively seeking VC funding right now? Like, would it make sense to incorporate there from the start just in case we decide to pursue VC later, or is that something that can be easily changed down the road if needed? Also, when you consulted with the tax attorney, did they charge much for this type of consultation? I'm trying to weigh the cost of professional advice against just making the decision based on what I'm learning here.

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