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Should I file taxes Married Filing Separately or Jointly this year?

I've been working on our tax return and was cruising along great until I added my husband's W-2 into the software. We suddenly went from expecting a decent refund to owing a few hundred dollars! I'm totally confused since we made around $135k combined last year, which I don't think hits any special tax bracket that would suddenly tax us more when our incomes were combined. I double-checked our W-4s and they look correct as far as I can tell. We live in Texas (no state income tax), and I'm scratching my head trying to figure out what's happening. Would we be better off just filing separately instead of jointly? Has anyone had this happen where adding your spouse's income completely tanked your refund? I'm wondering if there's something I'm missing or if separately might actually be the better option for us.

Amara Adebayo

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This is actually pretty common and usually doesn't mean anything is wrong with your W-4s or tax setup. When you first started your return with just your income, the software was calculating your refund based on standard deduction and tax brackets for just one income. Then when you added your husband's W-2, it recalculated everything based on your combined income. The most likely explanation is that one or both of you might have slightly underwithholding throughout the year. This happens especially with two-income households because each employer withholds as if that job is your only income, not accounting for your spouse's income pushing you into a higher marginal bracket. As for filing separately vs. jointly - for most couples, filing jointly is actually more beneficial. Filing separately often results in losing several tax benefits including student loan interest deductions, child tax credits at higher income levels, and typically higher overall tax rates.

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Does this "underwithholding" happen even if we both select "married" on our W-4s? And if we're already in this situation for 2023 taxes, is there anything we can do now, or is it too late since the year is over?

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Amara Adebayo

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Yes, it can still happen even if you both select "married" on your W-4s. The default withholding for "married" assumes you're the only one working or the primary earner in the household. If both spouses work and earn similar incomes, you often need to select the "two jobs" checkbox or add additional withholding on your W-4s. For your 2023 taxes that you're filing now, unfortunately there's not much you can do to change your withholding for last year. But you can update your W-4s with your employers for 2024 to prevent this from happening again. The IRS has a tax withholding estimator on their website that's really helpful for couples with two incomes.

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Miguel Castro

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Just to add my two cents - in most cases, Married Filing Jointly is better than Separately. The rare exceptions are: 1) If one spouse has significant medical expenses, student loan interest, or certain other itemized deductions that have AGI thresholds 2) If one spouse has income-based student loan payments that would increase significantly 3) If one spouse has tax debts the other doesn't want to be responsible for 4) If you live in a community property state with complex income situations Unless you fall into one of these categories, MFJ is almost always better tax-wise.

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What about if one spouse is self-employed with a Schedule C business and the other is W-2? Does that change the calculation at all?

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Miguel Castro

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In a self-employed and W-2 earner situation, filing jointly is usually still more advantageous. The self-employed spouse can still take all their business deductions on Schedule C regardless of filing status. When filing jointly, you might actually benefit more from certain deductions like the Qualified Business Income deduction, which can be affected by your combined household income. One scenario where separate filing might help is if the self-employed spouse has potential audit concerns or inconsistent income reporting that could create tax issues. In that case, the W-2 earner might want to file separately to avoid joint liability. But strictly from a tax savings perspective, joint filing typically results in a lower total tax bill even with a Schedule C business involved.

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Has anyone used the IRS withholding calculator to fix this problem? My husband and I keep owing every year despite both claiming "married" on our W-4s and I'm tired of writing checks to the IRS.

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LunarEclipse

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I've used it and it works pretty well. Just make sure you have your most recent paystubs and last year's tax return handy when you use it. The calculator will tell you exactly what to put on your W-4s. My husband and I both earn around $65k and we had to add about $80 additional withholding per paycheck each to break even.

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