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Liam O'Donnell

How Turbo Tax calculates refund amount before adding spouse's W2

I've been using Turbo Tax for years when I was single, but this year is throwing me for a loop. I started my taxes early to get an idea of what my refund might look like before my husband's W2 arrived. When I entered just my information, Turbo Tax showed I'd be getting around $9,500 back! I was so excited! Then yesterday, my husband's W2 finally came in. I entered all his info into Turbo Tax and watched in horror as my beautiful refund dropped by $5,400! Now we're only getting about $4,100 back. We have a toddler that we claim as a dependent, and we didn't have any tax due throughout the year. Both of us had taxes withheld from our paychecks. I'm completely baffled by how adding his income could cut our refund so drastically. I'm planning to have a tax professional review everything just to make sure, but has anyone else experienced this with Turbo Tax? Any insight on why this happens when adding a spouse's information would be really helpful!

Amara Nwosu

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This is actually pretty common and happens due to how the tax calculation works when you file jointly. When you entered just your information, Turbo Tax was calculating your refund as if you were filing as Head of Household (since you have a child) and only using your income. This often results in a lower tax rate and higher credits like the Earned Income Credit. When you added your husband's W2, a few things happened: 1) Your combined income is now higher, which might push you into a different tax bracket, 2) Some tax credits phase out or reduce as income increases, and 3) The withholding from both your paychecks might not have been optimized for your combined income. The good news is that your refund is still positive, which means you're getting money back! Having a professional look it over is always a good idea, especially with family changes. They might find additional deductions or credits you missed.

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That makes more sense now. I didn't realize adding his income would change my filing status calculations. So basically Turbo Tax was showing me an unrealistic number to begin with since I was always going to file jointly with my husband? Also, do you think we should adjust our withholdings for this year so we don't have such a big swing next tax season?

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Amara Nwosu

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Exactly! Turbo Tax was showing you what your refund would be if you filed without your husband, which isn't really applicable to your situation since you're married and filing jointly. Adjusting your withholdings is a great idea. You can use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator on their website to figure out the right amount to withhold. Having the correct withholding means you won't be giving the government an interest-free loan all year, but you also won't end up owing a large amount at tax time.

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Check if you're eligible for the Child Tax Credit with your combined income. For 2024 taxes (filing in 2025), the credit starts phasing out at higher income levels. Also, make sure both yours and your husband's W4 forms are filled out correctly at work - there's a specific checkbox for two-income households that many people miss.

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Thank you for mentioning the Child Tax Credit! I completely forgot about income phaseouts. Is there a specific income threshold I should know about? And where do I find that W4 checkbox? I don't remember seeing anything like that when I started my job.

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For the 2024 tax year, the Child Tax Credit begins to phase out at $200,000 for single filers and $400,000 for married filing jointly. The reduction is $50 for each $1,000 (or fraction thereof) by which your modified AGI exceeds the threshold. The checkbox is on the current W4 form in Step 2. It's specifically for households with multiple jobs or a working spouse. If both you and your husband check this box on your respective W4s, your employers will withhold taxes at a higher rate to account for your combined income. You can download the form from the IRS website and submit updated W4s to both your employers.

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