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Aisha Abdullah

Should I file married jointly or separately for the first time?

Hey everyone, I'm about to file taxes as a married person for the first time and have a couple questions before I dive in and try both options. 1. If my wife and I file married jointly, am I right in thinking that only one of us would actually prepare and submit the tax return, and the other person doesn't need to do anything? 2. In your experience, do you typically get a better refund filing separately or jointly? Some background - I'm working full-time while my husband is in dental school with basically zero income but has significant student loans. I'm the only one bringing in actual income right now. Thanks for any advice!

Filing jointly is usually the better option in your situation where only one spouse has income. To answer your questions directly: 1. Yes, if you file jointly, only one of you needs to complete and submit the tax return, though both spouses need to sign it (either electronically or physically depending on how you file). Your husband won't need to file a separate return. 2. With one income earner and one student, filing jointly is almost always better. When you file jointly, you get a higher standard deduction ($27,700 for 2024 vs $13,850 filing separately), better tax brackets, and full access to certain credits and deductions that are reduced or eliminated when filing separately. The one exception might be if your husband has income-based repayment for federal student loans. Filing separately might keep his payments lower since your income wouldn't be considered. However, you'd need to calculate if the tax savings from filing jointly outweigh the student loan payment savings from filing separately.

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What about if the student has PSLF (Public Service Loan Forgiveness)? Does filing separately help with that?

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If your husband is pursuing PSLF, then filing separately could potentially be beneficial. When on an income-driven repayment plan working toward PSLF, filing separately would mean only his income (which is nearly zero as a student) would be considered when calculating monthly payments. This could keep his payments very low, potentially even $0, which still count as qualifying payments toward the required 120 payments for PSLF. However, this strategy means you'll pay more in taxes than filing jointly. You'll need to compare the tax savings from filing jointly against the reduced student loan payments from filing separately to see which saves more money in your specific situation.

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Another thing to consider - if either of you has previous tax debts or is behind on certain government payments (like child support), filing jointly could put the refund at risk. When you file jointly, your entire refund could be seized to pay those debts even if they only belong to one spouse. You'd need to file an injured spouse form to try getting your portion back, which is a hassle.

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Do student loans fall into this category? If your spouse has defaulted federal student loans, will they take your refund if you file jointly?

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Yes, defaulted federal student loans can definitely lead to tax refund offsets. If your spouse has defaulted loans and you file jointly, the entire refund could be seized to repay those loans. Filing Form 8379 (Injured Spouse Allocation) can help you get your portion of the refund back, but it adds complexity and delays your refund by several months. If the student loans are in good standing or on an income-driven repayment plan, then you don't have to worry about refund offsets - it's only for defaulted loans. This is actually another situation where filing separately might make sense if one spouse has defaulted loans, as it protects the other spouse's refund entirely.

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First time my husband and I filed together, we tried both options in TurboTax and found filing jointly saved us almost $2,000! But everyone's situation is different. When one spouse is a student, joint is usually better because you can claim education credits on a joint return. Consider running your numbers both ways before deciding.

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Which tax software did you find easiest to use for comparing both options? I tried H&R Block online but it was confusing to switch between filing statuses to compare.

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