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Justin Chang

Should I exercise my startup equity before IPO when FMV has dropped 70%?

Hey everyone! I work for a fintech startup that's planning to go public in the next couple years. Our valuation hit $10B last February after Series D funding, but since then our fair market value has tanked by around 70%. I'm trying to figure out if I should exercise my options now or wait. Here's my situation: * 35,000 NSO shares (about 80% vested, so I can exercise 28,000 now) * Strike price: $1.30 per share (early employee perk!) * Preferred price from last funding round: $190 * Current 409A valuation: $50 The company is targeting IPO by 2026, hopefully at a price higher than our last funding round. Since the current FMV is only $50, I'm wondering if I should exercise now and pay taxes on the smaller spread ($50 - $1.30 = $48.70 per share) instead of waiting and potentially paying taxes on a much larger difference if our valuation recovers. I've checked out some financing options like EquityBee, ESO Fund and a few others that offer to cover exercising costs or provide more comprehensive financing. They all have different terms, interest rates, and some take a percentage of profits upon exit. From a tax and equity planning perspective, does it make sense to pull the trigger now or should I wait?

Grace Thomas

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This is a classic timing question with NSOs. When you exercise NSOs, you're taxed on the spread between your strike price and the FMV at exercise (that $48.70/share in your case). This is taxed as ordinary income - so likely at your highest marginal rate. If you exercise now, you'd pay taxes on that smaller spread, and if you hold the shares for at least a year after exercise before selling (like at IPO), any additional appreciation would be taxed at long-term capital gains rates, which are lower than ordinary income rates. The alternative is waiting until closer to IPO, which means risking that the FMV increases significantly before you exercise, creating a larger taxable spread taxed at ordinary income rates. There's also the consideration of how you'll pay for both the exercise cost and the resulting tax bill.

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So basically exercise now = pay taxes on $48.70/share at income tax rates, then only pay capital gains on future growth. But wait = potentially pay income tax on a much bigger spread. Does this also impact AMT at all? I've heard horror stories about people getting hit with huge AMT bills.

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Grace Thomas

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Regarding the smaller spread now vs. potentially larger spread later - yes, that's the main tax consideration. The AMT concern primarily applies to ISOs (Incentive Stock Options), not NSOs (Non-qualified Stock Options) which you have. With NSOs, you pay ordinary income tax on the spread at exercise regardless of AMT. With NSOs, you'll report the spread as income on your W-2 in the year you exercise, and your employer will typically withhold taxes. However, depending on the total value, the withholding might not cover your full tax liability, so you may need to make estimated tax payments to avoid underpayment penalties.

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Dylan Baskin

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Lauren Wood

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How accurate were their projections? I'm worried about relying on some random website for decisions involving potentially millions in taxes.

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Ellie Lopez

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Does taxr.ai handle complex scenarios? My company also has a secondary market where I could potentially sell some shares pre-IPO. Can they model that too?

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Dylan Baskin

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Their projections were surprisingly accurate in my case. They use the same tax calculation methods that CPAs use, but make it more user-friendly. Their service is built specifically for startup equity, so they understand all the nuances that general tax software misses. For secondary markets, yes they definitely handle those scenarios. They actually helped me evaluate a secondary sale opportunity against exercising and holding for long-term gains. They modeled different tax outcomes including the impact of state taxes, federal rates, and even potential tax law changes in the coming years.

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Ellie Lopez

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From a purely financial perspective, I'd actually recommend calculating the time value of money here. If you exercise now, you're paying taxes earlier than you need to. That money could be invested elsewhere until you absolutely have to exercise. The real question is: do you believe the company will successfully IPO at a higher valuation? If yes, exercising early generally makes sense to start your long-term capital gains clock. If you're uncertain about the company's prospects, consider exercising in smaller batches over time to hedge your bets.

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Justin Chang

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That's a good point about time value of money. How would you balance that against the potential tax savings? If I exercise now, I'm paying taxes sooner, but on a much smaller amount.

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The calculation involves comparing the tax you'd save by exercising now against what that money could earn if invested until a later exercise date. For example, if exercising now means paying $500K in taxes versus potentially $1.5M later, that's a $1M difference. However, if you invest that $500K for 2-3 years at a reasonable return rate, you'd need to factor that growth against your tax savings. Additionally, consider your personal risk tolerance. If the company's valuation drops further or the IPO falls through, exercising early might leave you with illiquid shares and a tax bill you've already paid.

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Jason Brewer

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Has anyone used any of those equity financing companies like SecFi or ESO? I'm considering one to cover my exercise costs but worried about what I'm giving up in the long run.

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I used one of them last year. They covered my exercise costs + taxes in exchange for 12% of my proceeds at exit. Seemed reasonable at the time since I couldn't afford the upfront costs, but now I'm second-guessing since that's potentially giving up hundreds of thousands if we have a successful IPO.

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Chloe Wilson

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I went through something similar with my startup equity in 2022. One thing to consider that hasn't been mentioned yet is the potential wash sale rules if you're also trading in your company's stock through secondary markets or employee stock purchase plans. Also, given your company's current situation (70% drop in valuation), you might want to look at Section 1202 qualified small business stock (QSBS) benefits. If your company qualifies, you could potentially exclude up to $10 million in gains from federal taxes when you eventually sell. This is another reason why exercising now at the lower FMV could be beneficial - it starts your 5-year holding period clock for QSBS. The key is making sure you have enough liquidity to cover both the exercise costs ($36,400 for 28,000 shares) and the tax bill (roughly $1.36M in ordinary income assuming you're in a high tax bracket). Don't forget about state taxes too - they can add significantly to your bill depending on where you live. Have you considered doing a partial exercise strategy? Maybe exercise 25% of your vested shares now to start the capital gains clock, then reassess in 6-12 months based on how the company is performing?

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Amara Nwosu

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This is really helpful analysis! The QSBS angle is something I hadn't considered at all. Just to clarify - does the 5-year holding period start from when I exercise the options or from when the company was originally incorporated? And is there a way to verify if my company would qualify for QSBS treatment? The partial exercise strategy makes a lot of sense too, especially given the uncertainty around our IPO timeline. I'm definitely in a high tax bracket, so that $1.36M tax hit would be substantial. Do you know if there are any estimated tax payment requirements I should be aware of if I exercise a large batch of options mid-year?

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