Should I create an LLC or file as self-employed for my craft business?
I started a small crafting business on the side and just invested in one of those mobile card readers for my very first craft fair coming up next month. I'm super excited but also kinda freaking out about the tax situation! The mobile payment system charges fees on every transaction, and honestly I have no clue if I should just file taxes as self-employed or if I should go through the whole process of creating an LLC. I'm terrible with anything tax-related (who isn't lol) and don't want to mess this up from the beginning. My friend who does photography said I should definitely form an LLC for "liability protection" but another crafter told me it's not worth it unless I'm making substantial money. I'm hoping to make around $6000-8000 this year from craft shows and my Etsy shop. What's the best route for a small crafting business that's just getting started? Self-employed or LLC? And how does that affect how I deal with those transaction fees from the card reader?
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Marcelle Drum
The decision between filing as self-employed (sole proprietor) or forming an LLC depends on several factors, but for a new craft business, you don't need to overcomplicate things! If you're just starting out, filing as self-employed is typically simpler and cheaper. You'll report your business income and expenses on Schedule C with your personal tax return. Those transaction fees from your mobile card reader? Totally deductible business expenses! Just keep good records of all sales and expenses. An LLC mainly provides liability protection by separating your personal assets from business liabilities. For most craft businesses, this isn't crucial unless you're selling products that might pose safety risks. Plus, an LLC means additional costs (filing fees, possibly annual fees) and sometimes more paperwork depending on your state.
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Tate Jensen
•Thanks for this info! If I do go the self-employed route, do I need to register anything with my state or get any special permits? Also, should I be making quarterly tax payments or just wait until tax time?
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Marcelle Drum
•You'll need to check your specific state and local requirements for business licenses or permits - many craft businesses need a basic business license and possibly a sales tax permit if you're selling at craft shows. Each locality has different rules. Regarding quarterly taxes, technically if you expect to owe $1,000 or more in federal taxes from your business, you should be making quarterly estimated tax payments. For a new business making $6,000-8,000, you'll likely need to make these payments to avoid underpayment penalties. Form 1040-ES is what you'll use for this.
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Adaline Wong
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Sophia Gabriel
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - if you're selling at craft fairs, you need to consider sales tax too! Each state has different rules, and some craft fairs even require you to have your sales tax permit before you can participate. I learned this the hard way last year when I almost got kicked out of a big holiday market because I didn't have my state sales tax permit. Had to apply for one on my phone in the parking lot!
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Collins Angel
•Omg thank you for mentioning this! I had no idea about the sales tax permit requirement. Do you also have to collect different sales tax rates depending on where the craft fair is located? And how do you handle the sales tax when using the mobile card reader?
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Sophia Gabriel
•Yes, sales tax rates vary by location, even within the same state sometimes. You'll need to know the correct rate for wherever your craft fair is happening. Most states have lookup tools on their tax department websites where you can enter an address and get the exact rate. For the mobile card reader, most of the popular ones (Square, PayPal, etc.) have sales tax features built in. You can program different tax rates and apply them to transactions based on your location. The system will separate the sales tax from your revenue, making it easier to report and remit the taxes later. Just make sure you set it up before your first sale!
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Tobias Lancaster
As someone who's run a craft business for 5+ years, here's my actual experience: started as self-employed, switched to LLC in year 3. Self-employed pros: easy setup, simple taxes (Schedule C), no extra fees Self-employed cons: no liability protection, looks less professional LLC pros: liability protection, more professional, easier to separate finances LLC cons: filing fees ($50-500 depending on state), annual fees, more paperwork For a new craft business making under $10k, self-employed is fine. Just get a separate business bank account and track EVERYTHING! Your mobile payment fees are 100% deductible btw.
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Ezra Beard
•This is super helpful! How difficult was it to transition from self-employed to LLC later? Did you have to get a new tax ID number and everything? I'm worried about starting as self-employed and then having a nightmare transition later.
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Emma Bianchi
I'm also just starting my craft business and this thread has been SO helpful! I was totally overwhelmed by all the tax stuff but now I have a much clearer picture. Based on what everyone's shared, it sounds like starting as self-employed is the way to go for most of us small crafters. I love that the mobile payment fees are deductible - that's going to add up over time! One question though - does anyone know if craft supplies like yarn, fabric, wood, etc. are also fully deductible? I'm assuming they are since they're directly used to create the products I sell, but want to make sure I'm understanding this correctly. Also super grateful for the heads up about sales tax permits - definitely going to look into that for my state before my first craft fair!
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Jamal Carter
•Yes, craft supplies are absolutely deductible as cost of goods sold (COGS)! Items like yarn, fabric, wood, beads, paint - anything that directly goes into making your products - are fully deductible business expenses. Just keep all your receipts and track what supplies went into which products. You'll report these on Part III of Schedule C when you file. The IRS considers these "materials and supplies" that are essential to creating your inventory. Some crafters even deduct a portion of their tools (scissors, needles, brushes) as business equipment, though these might need to be depreciated over time if they're expensive. Pro tip: if you buy supplies in bulk but only use some for business, you can only deduct the portion actually used for business purposes. So if you buy a big pack of fabric and use half for personal projects, only deduct half the cost. Good luck with your craft business launch!
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Natasha Ivanova
Great question! As someone who went through this exact same decision when I started my pottery business, I totally understand the confusion. For a new craft business expecting $6k-8k in revenue, I'd recommend starting as self-employed (sole proprietorship). Here's why: **Self-employed advantages:** - Much simpler setup - no filing fees or state paperwork - Just report income/expenses on Schedule C with your personal tax return - Those mobile card reader fees are 100% deductible business expenses - No ongoing LLC maintenance costs or annual fees **When to consider LLC:** - If you're making products that could potentially cause injury (candles, soaps with strong chemicals, etc.) - Once you're consistently making $15k+ annually - If you want to appear more professional to wholesale buyers **Tax tips for getting started:** - Keep meticulous records of ALL expenses (supplies, fees, mileage to craft shows) - Set aside 25-30% of profits for taxes - If you expect to owe $1k+ in taxes, make quarterly payments to avoid penalties - Don't forget about sales tax permits for craft fairs! You can always convert to an LLC later when your business grows. Start simple and focus on building your customer base first. The tax situation isn't as scary as it seems once you get organized!
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Makayla Shoemaker
•This is exactly the kind of comprehensive breakdown I was looking for! Thank you so much for laying out the specific revenue threshold ($15k+) for when it makes sense to switch to LLC - that really helps with planning ahead. The tip about setting aside 25-30% for taxes is super practical. I was wondering what percentage to save and wasn't sure if 20% would be enough. Better to overestimate and have money left over than scramble at tax time! One follow-up question - when you mention quarterly payments if expecting to owe $1k+, is that $1k in total taxes or just the business portion? Since this is a side hustle alongside my regular W-2 job, I'm trying to figure out how that calculation works with my existing withholdings.
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Kiara Greene
•Great question about the $1k threshold! That's $1k in total additional taxes owed beyond what's already been withheld from your W-2 job. So if your regular job withholdings cover your employment income taxes, but your craft business will generate an additional $1k+ in tax liability, then you'd need quarterly payments. Here's a quick way to estimate: multiply your expected craft business profit by about 15.3% (self-employment tax) plus your marginal income tax rate. So if you're in the 22% bracket and expect $6k profit: ($6k × 15.3%) + ($6k × 22%) = roughly $2,240 in additional taxes owed. Since that's over $1k, you'd want to make quarterly payments. The good news is you can increase your W-2 withholdings instead of making separate quarterly payments - sometimes that's easier! Just adjust your W-4 at your main job to have extra withheld. Also, don't stress too much about being perfect in your first year. The IRS gives some leeway to new businesses, and as long as you're making a good faith effort to pay what you owe, you'll be fine!
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Isabella Brown
This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar boat with my small jewelry business and was completely overwhelmed by the tax implications. One thing I wanted to add that I learned the hard way - make sure you understand the difference between gross revenue and net profit when calculating those tax estimates. I initially panicked thinking I'd owe taxes on my full $8k in sales, but after deducting all my materials, booth fees, travel expenses, and those card processing fees, my actual taxable profit was only about $3k. Also, for anyone using Square or similar mobile readers - they provide really nice year-end reports that break down all your fees and sales by month. Super helpful for tax prep! I wish I'd known to enable that feature from day one instead of trying to piece everything together from individual transaction emails. The 25-30% savings rule mentioned above is solid advice. I started with 30% and ended up with a nice little buffer that I rolled into my business expansion fund. Much better than scrambling to find tax money in April!
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Isabella Costa
•This is such a great point about gross revenue vs net profit! I was making the same mistake initially and getting stressed about owing way more than I actually would. The Square year-end reports tip is gold - I'm definitely going to set that up right away. I've been manually tracking everything in a spreadsheet but having that automated breakdown would save so much time and reduce errors. Your experience with the 30% savings rate giving you a buffer is really encouraging. I was leaning toward the conservative side anyway since this is all new to me, and knowing it can create a little business expansion fund makes it feel less like money just sitting there doing nothing. Quick question - when you calculated that $3k taxable profit, did you also deduct things like mileage to craft shows and a portion of your home workspace? I'm trying to make sure I'm not missing any legitimate deductions that could further reduce that tax burden.
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Abigail Patel
As a CPA who works with a lot of small craft businesses, I wanted to chime in with some official guidance that might help clarify things! For your situation with expected revenue of $6-8k, starting as a sole proprietorship (self-employed) is definitely the right move. The LLC decision can wait until you're more established. A few key points that haven't been fully covered: **Regarding those mobile payment fees:** Yes, they're 100% deductible as business expenses on Schedule C, Line 10 (fees and commissions). Keep good records of all processing fees - they add up quickly! **Self-employment tax reality check:** Remember you'll owe both regular income tax AND self-employment tax (15.3%) on your net profit. So if you profit $6k, expect roughly $918 in SE tax alone, plus regular income tax at your bracket rate. **Quarterly payments:** The $1,000 threshold mentioned earlier is correct, but there's a safe harbor rule - if you pay 100% of last year's tax liability through withholding/quarterlies, you won't owe penalties even if you underpay the current year. **Business bank account:** Even as sole proprietor, get a separate business checking account. Makes record-keeping infinitely easier and looks more professional to the IRS if you're ever audited. The tax situation really isn't as scary as it seems once you get organized. Focus on good record-keeping from day one - that's 90% of the battle!
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