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Luca Russo

Self employed tax benefits - how do I form an LLC for my business?

So I've been doing freelance web development for a little over a year now, and I'm trying to figure out what's the best way to structure my business for tax purposes. I've been filing as self-employed on my tax returns, but I keep hearing from other freelancers that forming an LLC could give me some advantages. What's the actual process for creating an LLC? Is it worth the hassle? And what specific tax benefits would I get compared to just staying as a sole proprietor? I'm mainly looking to reduce my tax burden as much as legally possible. My income fluctuates month to month but I made around $72,000 last year, and I'm wondering if there are deductions or structures I'm missing out on. Thanks for any advice!

Nia Harris

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Setting up an LLC is actually pretty straightforward and could be worth considering in your situation. The exact process varies by state, but generally you'll need to file Articles of Organization with your state's business division and pay a filing fee (usually $50-300 depending on your state). The main benefit of an LLC is liability protection - it separates your personal assets from your business liabilities. But from a tax perspective, a single-member LLC is still treated as a "disregarded entity" by default, meaning you'll file taxes the same way you do now (Schedule C on your personal return). The real tax benefits come if you elect to have your LLC taxed as an S-Corporation. This can potentially save on self-employment taxes. When you're a sole prop, ALL your profit is subject to SE tax (15.3%). As an S-Corp, you'd pay yourself a "reasonable salary" subject to those taxes, but could take remaining profits as distributions not subject to SE tax.

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GalaxyGazer

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So if I form an LLC but don't elect S-Corp status, there's basically no tax difference? Is the liability protection alone worth the annual fees? And what exactly is involved in the S-Corp election - is that something I can do myself or do I need an accountant?

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Nia Harris

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That's right - an LLC without S-Corp election won't change your tax situation. Whether liability protection alone is worth it depends on your business risk - as a web developer, if there's any chance your work could cause financial damage to clients, it might be worthwhile. For S-Corp election, you'd file Form 2553 with the IRS. While you can do it yourself, I'd recommend working with an accountant at least for the first year. S-Corps require more formalities like reasonable salary determination, separate payroll processing, and more complex tax filings. You'll need to weigh the added complexity against potential tax savings.

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Does it actually help with the paperwork filing process for creating the LLC or just tell you what to do? Also, how accurate was the tax savings calculation compared to what you actually ended up saving?

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Ethan Moore

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I'm skeptical about tools like this... can't I just ask my accountant to run the numbers? How does it handle state-specific filing requirements which are all different?

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Mateo Sanchez

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It doesn't file the LLC paperwork for you, but it provides state-specific instructions and links to the forms you need. You can either DIY or hand those instructions to a lawyer. The tax savings calculation was surprisingly accurate in my case - it projected $8,200 in SE tax savings, and my actual savings ended up being about $7,800. The small difference was because I adjusted my salary slightly based on my accountant's recommendation. The tool actually helps you determine a defensible "reasonable salary" based on industry data, which is crucial for S-Corps.

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Andre Moreau

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Don't forget about the tax deductions you can take as a self-employed person! Whether you form an LLC or not, you can deduct: - Home office (if you have dedicated space) - Health insurance premiums - Business travel - Equipment and supplies - Professional development courses - Retirement contributions (SEP IRA or Solo 401k) - Internet and phone (business portion) I saved over $5k last year just by tracking these properly!

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Zoe Stavros

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Do you need special documentation for the home office deduction? I've heard that's a big audit trigger so I've always been too scared to claim it even though I legitimately work from home.

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Andre Moreau

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You don't need special documentation upfront, but you should definitely measure your office space and keep records in case of an audit. The key is that the space must be used "regularly and exclusively" for business. The simplified option is easiest - you can deduct $5 per square foot up to 300 sq ft without tracking actual expenses. Less paperwork and lower audit risk. If your home office is bigger or your actual expenses are higher (mortgage interest, utilities, etc.), the regular method might save more but requires more record-keeping.

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Jamal Harris

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Has anyone here actually been audited as a self-employed person? What was that experience like and how did you prepare?

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Mei Chen

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Zara Ahmed

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Great thread! I'm in a similar situation - been freelancing for about 8 months now and definitely feeling overwhelmed by all the business structure options. Reading through everyone's experiences, it sounds like the consensus is that LLC formation is pretty straightforward, but the real decision point is whether to elect S-Corp status based on your income level. @Luca Russo - at $72k income, you're definitely in the sweet spot where S-Corp election could provide meaningful savings. From what I've read elsewhere, the general rule of thumb is that S-Corp makes sense when you're making $60k+ in profit, since the administrative costs and complexity start to pay for themselves at that level. One thing I'm curious about - has anyone dealt with quarterly estimated tax payments as an S-Corp? I'm already struggling to stay on top of those as a sole prop, and I'm wondering if the payroll requirements make that more or less complicated. Also really appreciate the tool recommendations in this thread. Always helpful to have resources that can run the numbers objectively rather than just getting generic advice.

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