Should I complete a W9 form when hired as a W2 employee?

You're absolutely correct to question this. A W9 form is what independent contractors or freelancers fill out (1099 workers), while W2 employees should be completing a W4 form which tells your employer how much to withhold from your paycheck. If they've agreed you're a W2 employee, you should be filling out a W4, not a W9. The fact that they're insisting on a W9 is concerning and suggests they might still be planning to treat you as a 1099 contractor despite what they said. This distinction is important because as a W2 employee, your employer pays half of your Social Security and Medicare taxes, whereas 1099 contractors pay the full amount themselves (self-employment tax). Plus, W2 employees typically get benefits and protections that contractors don't.

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Former payroll manager here. This company is either incompetent or deliberately trying to misclassify you. There is NEVER a legitimate reason for a W2 employee to fill out a W9. These are two completely different tax classifications that cannot apply to the same position simultaneously. W4 = Employee (company withholds taxes, pays half your FICA, provides benefits) W9 = Independent contractor (you pay quarterly estimated taxes, pay full self-employment tax) Stand your ground. If they insist on the W9, they're planning to treat you as a 1099 contractor regardless of what they promised. Get everything in writing.

The company might be confused because sometimes businesses DO need both forms - but for completely different purposes! My small business collects W9s from our vendors and contractors, while our actual employees fill out W4s. Maybe someone in HR just grabbed the wrong form from their files?

This is a major red flag and you're absolutely right to question it. As someone who's dealt with employee classification issues before, I can tell you that legitimate companies with proper HR departments never confuse W4s and W9s - they serve completely different purposes and there's no scenario where a W2 employee should fill out a W9. The fact that they initially wanted to hire you as 1099, then "agreed" to W2 but are still pushing W9 paperwork suggests they haven't actually changed their classification of you internally. They might be trying to get the best of both worlds - telling you you're an employee while treating you as a contractor for tax purposes. I'd recommend getting their commitment to W2 status in writing via email, then specifically asking them to confirm that as a W2 employee, you'll be filling out a W4 form instead of the W9. Their response will tell you everything you need to know about whether they're genuine about the employee classification or just trying to placate you while maintaining contractor status behind the scenes.

You're absolutely right to be suspicious about this. I work in tax compliance and can confirm that there is NO legitimate reason for a W2 employee to complete a W9 form. These are mutually exclusive classifications - you're either an employee (W4) or an independent contractor (W9), never both. The fact that they're insisting on a W9 "anyway" after agreeing to W2 status is a huge red flag. This suggests they either don't understand basic payroll tax requirements (concerning for any employer) or they're deliberately trying to maintain contractor classification while telling you you're an employee. My recommendation: Don't sign or submit the W9 under any circumstances. Instead, send them an email stating "As we discussed, I'll be joining as a W2 employee. Please send me the appropriate W4 form for tax withholding purposes. I won't be able to complete a W9 as that form is exclusively for independent contractors, which doesn't match my agreed-upon employment status." Their response will tell you everything you need to know about their true intentions. If they push back or insist on the W9, you're likely looking at deliberate misclassification and should consider whether this is really a company you want to work for.

I've been following this thread and wanted to add my perspective as someone who recently went through a very similar situation. The advice here is absolutely correct - there's no legitimate reason for a W2 employee to fill out a W9, and you should definitely stand your ground on this. What's particularly concerning is that they initially wanted to hire you as 1099, then "agreed" to W2 status but are still pushing contractor paperwork. This pattern suggests they haven't actually changed their internal classification of your position - they're just telling you what you want to hear while planning to treat you as a contractor anyway. I'd recommend documenting everything in writing. Send them an email confirming your W2 employee status and explicitly requesting the W4 form. Something like: "To confirm our discussion, I'll be joining as a W2 employee. Please provide the W4 form for tax withholding. I understand the W9 you sent was sent in error, as that's only used for independent contractors." Their response will reveal their true intentions. A legitimate company would immediately apologize for the mix-up and send the correct form. If they keep insisting on the W9 or give you vague explanations, you'll know they're either incompetent or deliberately trying to misclassify you - and you can make an informed decision about whether to proceed with this employer. The tax implications are significant, so it's worth getting this sorted out properly before you start work.