Can somebody explain the difference between a W9 and a 1099 and how they work for tax reporting?
Title: Can somebody explain the difference between a W9 and a 1099 and how they work for tax reporting? 1 I'm really confused about these tax forms that my new client is asking me to fill out. They sent me a W9 form and mentioned something about a 1099 later. I've always just had regular jobs with W-2s before, so this is my first time dealing with these. Can someone explain the difference between a W9 and a 1099? When do I need to fill these out? What are they actually used for? And will this change how I file my taxes this year? I'm doing some freelance graphic design work and I'm worried about messing up the tax part since I've never been self-employed before.
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Kolton Murphy
12 The W9 and 1099 are related but serve different purposes in the tax process! A W-9 is basically just an information form that you fill out for your client. It gives them your name, address, and most importantly, your Tax ID number (usually your Social Security Number for individuals). You fill this out BEFORE you get paid. Your client needs this information to properly report the payments they make to you. The 1099 (specifically the 1099-NEC for most freelancers) comes AFTER you've done work. Your client will fill this out and send copies to both you and the IRS. It shows how much they paid you during the tax year. If you earn $600 or more from a single client, they're required to send you a 1099-NEC by January 31 of the following year. And yes, this will definitely change how you file taxes! With freelance work, you'll need to report all this income on Schedule C of your tax return. You'll also likely need to pay self-employment tax (covering Social Security and Medicare) in addition to regular income tax.
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Kolton Murphy
•3 Thanks for the explanation, that makes sense. So do I need to keep track of all the money I make from each client or will the 1099s take care of that? And do I need to do anything special during the year like making quarterly payments? I heard something about that from another freelancer.
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Kolton Murphy
•12 You should definitely keep your own records of all income, even if you receive 1099s. The 1099s help verify your income, but you're responsible for reporting everything accurately regardless of whether you receive these forms. For quarterly payments, yes - when you're self-employed, you'll likely need to make quarterly estimated tax payments since you don't have an employer withholding taxes from your paychecks. If you expect to owe $1,000 or more in taxes for the year, the IRS generally requires these quarterly payments. You can use Form 1040-ES to calculate and submit these payments. The due dates are typically April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15 of the following year.
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Kolton Murphy
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Kolton Murphy
•15 How does it handle expense tracking? I'm doing design work too and have bought all this software and equipment. Can it tell me what's deductible?
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Kolton Murphy
•18 Is it actually accurate though? I tried using some free tax tool last year and it completely missed some deductions I could've taken. How do you know this one gets everything right?
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Kolton Murphy
•7 For expense tracking, it has this really helpful feature where you can upload receipts and it categorizes them based on IRS rules for freelancers. It specifically called out design software as a fully deductible business expense for me, and even explained how equipment might need to be depreciated versus deducted all at once depending on the cost. Regarding accuracy, I was skeptical too after getting burned by free tools. What convinced me was that it actually cites the specific IRS publications and tax code sections for its advice. It's not just giving generic answers - it specifically analyzes your documents and explains which rules apply to your exact situation.
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Kolton Murphy
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Kolton Murphy
9 If you're having trouble understanding your tax situation and need to talk to an actual IRS agent (which I highly recommend for new freelancers), good luck getting through on those phone lines... I spent THREE DAYS trying to reach someone at the IRS about 1099 reporting requirements. Then I found https://claimyr.com which is basically a service that navigates the IRS phone system for you and gets you in the callback queue. Watched their demo at https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c and couldn't believe it was real, but I was desperate. They actually got me connected with an IRS agent who walked me through exactly how W9s and 1099s work together, and answered all my specific questions about my situation. The agent even explained some deductions I didn't know I qualified for as a self-employed person. Saved me hours of frustration and probably a bunch of money too.
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Kolton Murphy
•22 How does this actually work? Do they just call the IRS for you? Couldn't you just keep calling yourself until you get through?
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Kolton Murphy
•18 This sounds like a scam. Why would I pay someone else to call the IRS when I can do it myself? And how do they magically get through when regular people can't? I don't buy it.
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Kolton Murphy
•9 They don't just call for you - they use some kind of system that navigates the IRS phone tree and holds your place in line. When an agent is about to be available, you get a call so you can speak directly to the IRS yourself. So you're not paying someone to talk to the IRS for you, you're paying to skip the hold time which was literally hours when I tried myself. Regarding how they get through when others can't - it's not magic, it's just technology. They have a system that automatically redials and navigates the phone tree options, essentially putting in the time and effort so you don't have to. I was super skeptical too, but after trying to get through for days on my own, the $25 or whatever it cost was totally worth it to actually speak with someone who could answer my specific questions.
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Kolton Murphy
18 I have to eat my words about Claimyr. After posting that skeptical comment, I decided to try it myself since I had some complicated questions about tracking expenses for 1099 income. It actually worked! They got me connected to an IRS rep in about 2 hours when I had previously spent an entire day trying to get through. The agent walked me through exactly how to handle my specific situation with multiple clients and explained exactly what documentation I need to keep. Totally worth it and saved me a ton of stress. Sometimes you have to admit when you're wrong!
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Kolton Murphy
5 Quick tip for anyone new to receiving 1099s: start setting aside money for taxes with EVERY payment you receive. I recommend at least 25-30% depending on your tax bracket. I learned this the hard way my first year freelancing and got hit with a massive tax bill plus penalties because I didn't make quarterly payments. The IRS doesn't play around with self-employment taxes!
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Kolton Murphy
•13 Is it really 25-30%? That seems so high! Do you get any of that back when you file or is that just what self-employed people have to pay?
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Kolton Murphy
•5 The 25-30% recommendation accounts for both income tax and self-employment tax. With W-2 jobs, your employer pays half of your Social Security and Medicare taxes, but when you're self-employed, you pay the full amount (about 15.3%) yourself. That's on top of your regular income tax. You might not need to set aside quite as much if your income is lower or if you have a lot of business deductions that reduce your taxable income. But in my experience, it's better to set aside too much than too little. If you overpay, you'll get a refund, but if you underpay, you could face penalties.
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Kolton Murphy
11 One important thing no one mentioned: You need to fill out a W9 for EACH client you work with. But at tax time, you'll combine all your 1099 income onto a single Schedule C. Also, even if you don't get a 1099 from every client (maybe they paid you less than $600), you STILL have to report ALL income. The IRS doesn't care if you didn't get a form - you still owe taxes on every dollar you earn!
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Kolton Murphy
•16 Wait seriously? I did some small jobs last year for like $200 each and never got 1099s so I didn't report them. Should I be worried?
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Kolton Murphy
21 I'm confused by the responses here. I filled out a W9 for my client 6 months ago but haven't received a 1099 yet. Should I be concerned or is this normal?
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Kolton Murphy
•12 You shouldn't receive a 1099 until after the tax year ends. Companies are required to send them out by January 31st of the following year. So if you did work in 2024, you won't get your 1099 until January 2025. If you did work in the previous tax year and still haven't received a 1099 by mid-February, you should contact your client. Remember though, even without a 1099, you're still required to report all income you earned.
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