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Do I need to provide a blank W9 when requesting one? Or can I just ask for it?

So I've been trying to get a W9 from a company I did some contract work for, but they're being difficult about it. When I asked them to provide a W9, they refused and said I need to give them a blank W9 first. That doesn't seem right to me. Aren't they supposed to just give me the form when I request it? I need it for my tax records since they'll be sending me a 1099 later, and I want to make sure all the information is correct before tax season. This is my first time dealing with contract work, so I'm not sure if I'm missing something or if they're just making excuses. Any help would be appreciated!

You're absolutely right to question this. When you request a W-9 from a business or entity that has paid you, they should provide you with a completed W-9 form - not ask you to provide a blank one first. The W-9 is used by the payer to get your tax information (including your TIN/SSN) so they can properly report payments to you on a 1099 form. It sounds like there might be some confusion on their part. They might be thinking of a situation where you, as the contractor, should provide them with your completed W-9 (which is actually correct - contractors typically provide their W-9 to those who hire them). But if you've already provided your information and now you're asking for their W-9, that's a legitimate request they should fulfill.

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Wait I'm confused now. Isn't the W9 something I'm supposed to fill out and give to THEM? I thought that's how they get my SSN and info to send me a 1099 later. Why would I need their W9?

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You're absolutely right to be confused because there's often misunderstanding about this process. The W-9 is typically provided by the contractor (you) to the company paying you. You fill it out with your tax information, and they use it to prepare your 1099 at year-end. If you're requesting their W-9, there might be a miscommunication about what you're asking for. What you might actually need is a copy of the W-9 you previously submitted to them, or perhaps you're looking for their company information for your records. In most cases, you don't need their W-9 unless you're paying them for services.

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Just to clarify something I'm seeing in this thread - there seems to be confusion about who should be providing a W9 to whom. If you're the CONTRACTOR (doing work for someone else), YOU fill out a W9 and give it to the company that hired you. If you're the BUSINESS (hiring contractors), you REQUEST a completed W9 from your contractors. A business would never need to provide their W9 to a contractor unless the contractor is also paying them for something.

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Thanks for this clear explanation! I think I've been using the wrong terminology. What I meant was that I provided them with my completed W9 when I started the contract work (with my SSN and all my info). Now I'm trying to get a copy of that completed form back from them for my records, but they're saying I need to give them another blank form first. Does that make more sense?

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Ah, that makes perfect sense now! You're actually asking for a copy of your OWN completed W9 that you previously submitted to them. That's a reasonable request, and no, you absolutely don't need to provide them with another blank form first. They should have your completed W9 on file and be able to provide you with a copy. Some companies have policies about how they handle documents with sensitive information like SSNs, which might be causing the confusion. Try clarifying that you're simply requesting a copy of your own previously submitted paperwork for your tax records. If they still refuse, you could suggest they redact sensitive information if that's their concern.

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Has anyone else noticed that like half the companies out there don't even know how to handle basic tax paperwork correctly? Last year I had three different clients mess up my 1099s even though I gave them properly completed W9s. One reported my income under the wrong tax ID, another used my old address, and the third just... never sent it at all. 🤦‍♀️

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THIS. I got a 1099 last year where they somehow misspelled my LAST NAME even though it was clearly written on my W9. Now I'm paranoid about making sure all my paperwork is perfect because I don't trust these companies at all.

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I've been freelancing for 3 years now and unfortunately this kind of confusion is pretty common. Many smaller companies don't have proper accounting departments and genuinely don't understand the W9 process. From what you've described, it sounds like you already provided them with your completed W9 when you started the contract work, and now you're just asking for a copy of that same form for your records. That's completely reasonable and they should provide it without requiring you to submit another blank form. Sometimes framing it differently helps - try saying "Could you please provide me with a copy of the W9 I submitted to you on [date]?" rather than just "I need a W9." This makes it clear you're asking for your own paperwork back, not requesting they fill out a new form. If they continue to be difficult, you might want to mention that you need it to ensure the 1099 they send you matches your records. Most companies want to avoid 1099 errors since those can create headaches for everyone involved.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to contract work myself and this whole thread has been eye-opening. I had no idea there was so much confusion around W9s. The suggestion about being specific with the wording makes a lot of sense - saying "copy of the W9 I submitted" is much clearer than just asking for "a W9." I'm curious though - is there any legal requirement for companies to provide copies of forms you've submitted to them? Or is it just good practice? I want to make sure I know my rights before I start doing more freelance work.

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