Self-employed with quarterly tax payments - how to complete wife's W-4 at new job?
My wife and I file our taxes jointly and have two kids. I work for myself and handle my tax obligations through quarterly payments to the IRS. My wife just landed a new position after not working for a while, and we're totally confused about how to properly fill out her W-4 form. We want to make sure everything balances out correctly between my quarterly payments and her withholding. Ideally, I'd like to set things up so she has the minimum amount withheld from her paychecks (just enough to avoid any penalties), even if that means we end up owing some money when we file our return next year. Any advice on completing her W-4 in our situation? The new form seems really complicated compared to the old one.
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Joshua Hellan
The W-4 can definitely be tricky when you have mixed income sources like self-employment and W-2 employment! Since you're already making quarterly payments, you'll want to carefully coordinate her withholding. Start by using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator (available on irs.gov) - it's much better than trying to figure it out manually. You'll need to input your expected self-employment income, your quarterly payment amounts, and her expected annual salary. For the W-4 itself, you'll probably want to: 1) Check the "Married filing jointly" box, 2) Claim your two dependents in Step 3, 3) In Step 4(c), you can add an additional amount to withhold if needed based on your calculations. The key is making sure that between your quarterly payments and her withholding, you're covering at least 90% of your current year tax liability or 100% of last year's liability (110% if your AGI was over $150,000) to avoid underpayment penalties.
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Olivia Kay
•Thanks for the reply! Quick question - if we enter our two dependents in Step 3, won't that reduce her withholding significantly? I'm worried we might end up owing too much. Also, do we need to account for my self-employment income somehow in Step 4(a) of her W-4?
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Joshua Hellan
•Yes, claiming your two dependents in Step 3 will reduce her withholding - each dependent reduces withholding by about $2,000 worth of tax credit. If you're concerned about owing too much, you could either not claim them on her W-4 or claim them but add an additional withholding amount in Step 4(c) to compensate. For your self-employment income, you don't need to list it in Step 4(a) of her W-4 since you're already handling that through quarterly payments. Step 4(a) would be for other income that isn't already having tax withheld or paid, like interest or dividends. The withholding estimator should help you determine if any adjustments are needed to stay penalty-free while minimizing withholding.
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Jibriel Kohn
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Edison Estevez
•Does it actually give you the specific numbers to put on each line of the W-4? I tried one of those calculators before and it just gave me general advice, not actual figures. Also, can it handle the child tax credit calculations correctly?
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Emily Nguyen-Smith
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Jibriel Kohn
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Edison Estevez
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Mia Green
One approach my wife and I use (I'm self-employed, she has W-2 income) is to set her W-4 for slightly HIGHER withholding to cover some of my self-employment tax. We found it easier than making larger quarterly payments. For the W-4, we check the box in Step 2(c) for "multiple jobs," which increases her withholding. It's not perfectly accurate, but it's simpler for us than trying to calibrate everything exactly. We usually get a small refund, which I know some people hate, but we prefer that to scrambling to make a big payment in April.
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Olivia Kay
•Interesting approach! Do you know roughly what percentage of your self-employment tax gets covered by her additional withholding? And have you ever had issues with underpayment penalties this way?
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Mia Green
•We cover about 60% of my self-employment tax through her withholding. The remaining 40% I pay through quarterly payments, but they're much smaller and more manageable this way. We've never had underpayment penalties because the combination keeps us well above the safe harbor threshold (100% of last year's tax or 90% of current year). The key was finding the right balance - we started too high with her withholding and got a huge refund the first year, so we've adjusted downward since then.
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Emma Bianchi
Don't overthink this! Just have your wife put "married filing jointly" and claim both kids on her W-4. Then YOU increase your quarterly payments a bit to make up any difference. WAY easier than trying to calculate the perfect withholding amount on her checks.
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Lucas Kowalski
•This is actually really bad advice. If she claims both kids on her W-4 and the husband continues making the same quarterly payments, they'll likely be significantly underpaying their taxes. The quarterly payments were calibrated for just his income, not their combined income minus two child credits.
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