Schedule C, Fillable Forms & Self-Employment - Sanity Checks for Year 2 Filing (W2 + Business)
Hey fellow tax survivors! I'm in my second year using free fillable forms and my first year with a side business (while still working a W2 job), and I'm hoping for some validation on a few things. Just need to make sure I'm not screwing anything up royally. My situation: I've got regular W2 income from my day job, started a small business last year that's making some profit, have an HDHP with HSA contributions, and a bit of interest income from my savings. I've figured out my first question on my own (it was about Schedule SE Line 2 and Schedule K-1 Form 1065), but I'm still stuck on these: 2) On Form 8995A (Qualified Business Income Deduction), line 4 asks for "Allocable share of W-2 wages from the trade, business, or aggregation." I'm completely lost here. I understand it relates to the limit being "the lesser of 20% of total 1040 taxable income" from what I've read, but I'm not sure what to enter. My total 1040 taxable income? Just my business profit? (But that's not W2 income, right?) If I put 0, all the calculation lines show 0, which doesn't seem right based on what I know about the QBI deduction. Really confused about this one! 3) Based on my situation, here are the forms I think I need to file. Am I missing anything important? - Form 1040 (obviously) - Schedule 3 (for prepayments) - Form 8889 (for HSA) - Schedule B (for interest/bank bonuses) - Schedule C (business profit) - W-2 (employment income) - Form 8995A (QBI deduction) - Schedule SE (self-employment tax) Any help would be super appreciated! I'm trying to avoid making expensive mistakes.
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Ben Cooper
For Form 8995A Line 4 about "Allocable share of W-2 wages," this is actually referring to wages you paid to employees of your business, not your personal W-2 income. If you don't have any employees in your business, you would enter zero here. The QBI deduction gets complicated because there are wage limitations that kick in at higher income levels (over $170,050 for single filers or $340,100 for joint filers in 2023). If you're below these thresholds, you qualify for the simplified calculation which is basically 20% of your qualified business income without worrying about the W-2 wage limitation. As for your forms, your list looks good! A couple things to consider: - If you made estimated tax payments, don't forget Schedule 3 - If you purchased any business assets over $2,500, you might need Form 4562 for depreciation - If you use part of your home for business, consider Form 8829 for home office deduction
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Khalid Howes
•Oh! That makes so much more sense about the W-2 wages line! I don't have any employees, so zero it is. I'm definitely below those income thresholds you mentioned, so I should be able to take the full 20% deduction without the wage limitation, right? Also, I did make quarterly estimated tax payments, and I already have Schedule 3 on my list for that. I didn't purchase any big assets for the business yet, so sounds like I can skip Form 4562. I've been working at coffee shops and client locations, so no home office to claim either. Thanks for clearing that up - it was driving me crazy trying to figure out what to put there!
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Ben Cooper
•You're exactly right! Since you're below the income thresholds, you qualify for the simplified QBI deduction which is just 20% of your qualified business income (your Schedule C profit). No need to worry about the W-2 wage limitation. For your situation, the form list you have is spot on. Just make sure to double-check that your quarterly estimated payments are correctly entered on Schedule 3. The IRS sometimes has trouble matching those payments if the amounts or dates are entered incorrectly, which can trigger unnecessary notices.
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Demi Hall
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Mateusius Townsend
Just wanted to add that if you're using Schedule C and Form 8995A, don't forget about the Section 199A deduction which is related to your Qualified Business Income. It's basically a 20% deduction on your net business income if you're below those income thresholds someone mentioned. Also, since you have HSA contributions with an HDHP, make absolutely sure you're maximizing that! For 2024, you can contribute up to $4,150 for individual coverage or $8,300 for family coverage (plus $1,000 catch-up if you're 55+). This is literally the best tax advantage available - it goes in pre-tax and comes out tax-free for medical expenses.
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Khalid Howes
•Thanks for the reminder about the Section 199A deduction! Is that handled automatically through Form 8995A or do I need to do something else to claim it? For the HSA, I'm contributing the maximum for individual coverage. One question though - if I switch to family coverage mid-year, can I contribute the full family amount or is it prorated?
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Mateusius Townsend
•Form 8995A is specifically for calculating your Section 199A (Qualified Business Income) deduction, so no need to do anything additional. It flows automatically to your 1040. For HSA contributions after switching to family coverage mid-year, it gets a bit complicated. You can actually contribute the full family maximum ($8,300 for 2024) if you're still covered by a family HDHP on December 1st and remain covered for the full calendar year of 2025 (called the "last-month rule"). If you don't maintain coverage through December 2025, you'd need to prorate your contribution based on how many months you had each type of coverage.
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Kara Yoshida
Don't forget that your self-employment tax (Schedule SE) is based on 92.35% of your net earnings from self-employment, not the full amount! This trips up a lot of first-timers. The reason is that employees only pay half of FICA taxes while employers pay the other half, but self-employed people pay both halves. The 7.65% reduction compensates for this. Also, you can deduct half of your self-employment tax on Schedule 1, line 15. This is an adjustment to income, so you get this deduction even if you don't itemize.
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Philip Cowan
•Just a quick correction - the SE tax is actually 15.3% (12.4% Social Security + 2.9% Medicare) on that 92.35% of net earnings, up to the Social Security wage base limit ($168,600 for 2024). Then 2.9% Medicare tax continues beyond that with no limit, plus an additional 0.9% for high earners. But your point about deducting half on Schedule 1 is super important - loads of people miss that and it's a significant deduction!
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