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Just wanted to share that the IRS has been somewhat inconsistent with how they want TFSAs reported. Some tax preparers file Form 3520 and Form 3520-A (for foreign trusts), while others argue that TFSAs should be treated like any other foreign financial account requiring just FBAR and possibly Form 8938. In my experience, many tax professionals now take the position that a TFSA is NOT a foreign trust and therefore Form 3520 isn't required. But this isn't universally agreed upon, which is why this is such a confusing area. If you want to be extra cautious, reporting it on Form 3520 covers all bases, but it adds complexity to your return. Whatever approach you take, document your reasoning in case you're ever questioned.

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KhalilStar

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Thanks for this info! Did you end up filing Form 3520 for your TFSA, or did you go with just FBAR and 8938? I'm trying to understand what the majority of people in this situation are doing.

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I initially filed Form 3520 for my TFSA for two years, following advice from my first cross-border tax specialist. It was a paperwork headache and added considerable complexity to my returns. After consulting with another tax professional who specializes specifically in US-Canada issues, I switched to reporting my TFSA on FBAR and Form 8938 only, with a note explaining the account's status. This professional provided me with several IRS memorandums and case examples supporting the position that most standard TFSAs don't meet the technical definition of foreign trusts requiring 3520 filing.

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Be careful with TFSA and US tax reporting! The tax treaty between US-Canada doesn't recognize the tax-free status of TFSAs for US tax purposes. Even if you solve the Form 3520 issue, you still need to report any income/gains from the TFSA on your US tax return. This is why many dual citizens eventually close their TFSAs - the reporting requirements and US tax on the earnings often outweigh the Canadian tax benefits.

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This is so frustrating! So even if I properly report the TFSA now, any interest, dividends, or capital gains inside it are still taxable for US purposes? That completely defeats the whole purpose of having a TFSA.

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NebulaNomad

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Here's something nobody mentioned yet: you might want to check if your plan allows for "true-up" contributions. Some 401(k) plans will automatically adjust at year-end to ensure you get the full employer match if you hit your contribution limit early and stopped contributing. If your plan has this feature, it could explain why ADP is treating your contribution differently than what appears on your W-2. It's just another angle to consider when sorting this out.

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Zainab Ahmed

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I've never heard of "true-up" contributions. Would that explain why ADP insists the W-2 box 12 amount is "meaningless" compared to when contributions actually hit my account?

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NebulaNomad

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Yes, that might explain their strange language about the W-2 being "meaningless." With true-up contributions, the employer makes additional deposits to your 401(k) to ensure you receive the full match you're entitled to, even if your own contributions were front-loaded during the year. These adjustments typically happen in January for the previous year, which aligns with what they told you about January 2024 crediting. However, for contribution limit purposes, the IRS still looks at the tax year shown on your W-2. I'd suggest specifically asking ADP if your final "contribution" was actually a true-up adjustment rather than a regular paycheck deduction.

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I see everyone focusing on the 401(k) timing, but let's not miss the big picture here. If your W-2 shows $30,590 in Box 12, you're definitely over the 2023 contribution limit of $22,500 (or $30,000 if you're 50+). Even if some deposits happened in January 2024, you need to get this fixed ASAP. Request the excess corrective distribution NOW, before April 15th. The 1099-R timing is a separate issue - yes, you'll get it next year, but you need to request the correction this year to avoid penalties.

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Emma Taylor

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The limit for 2023 was $22,500, but don't forget they might have both traditional and Roth 401k contributions combined in that box, or maybe there's employer matching included? Not all money in box 12 counts toward the employee limit.

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Do I need to file IRS forms 5472 and 1120 for 2 LLCs with identical names?

I'm in a confusing situation with my LLCs and could use some advice about tax filing requirements. Back in 2023, I registered an LLC in Delaware, got an EIN by submitting Form SS-4, but then abandoned it shortly after. I never filed any IRS forms 5472 or 1120 as a foreign owner because I decided the LLC wouldn't work for my needs and I wanted to dissolve it. Fast forward to this year, and I've created a new LLC in New Mexico with exactly the same name - I finally found a use for an LLC and NM made more sense for my situation. When I applied for a new EIN with another SS-4, the IRS responded to my old Delaware LLC address saying I can only have one EIN and it's permanent. They explained that for SS-4 purposes, single-member LLCs are treated as sole proprietorships, and the EIN was assigned to me personally (even though I'd be using the LLC's business name). The IRS suggested I just update my address if I "moved" the business to another state. But I didn't move anything - I created a completely different LLC, which I clearly indicated on the form. Here's where I'm really confused: For forms 5472 and 1120, single-member foreign-owned LLCs are considered corporations (regardless of chosen status), so these forms need to be filed annually even without reportable transactions. If I file these forms next year for my new NM LLC, I'd have to use the EIN from my old abandoned Delaware LLC... but the incorporation date would be different. How do I handle this for tax purposes? Am I still on the hook for the Delaware LLC's filing requirements? Do I need to file back taxes for the years I missed? And what's the proper way to report for my new NM LLC using the same EIN?

LunarEclipse

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To add something that hasn't been mentioned yet - you should also check state tax requirements for both your abandoned Delaware LLC and your new New Mexico LLC. Even if you never conducted business in Delaware, some states require filing annual reports and tax returns just for having an LLC registered there. For your New Mexico LLC, you'll need to make sure you're properly registered for state taxes there too. If you're using the same EIN, be extra careful that you're not accidentally creating nexus in both states, which could subject you to taxation in both places. Also, as a foreign owner, don't forget about potential FBAR and FATCA requirements depending on your specific situation. Those have separate, equally harsh penalties for non-compliance.

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Thanks for bringing this up. I did pay the Delaware annual franchise tax for 2023, but then stopped when I abandoned the LLC. Should I have formally dissolved it with the state? As for New Mexico, I've registered for gross receipts tax but didn't think about how using the same EIN might create confusion. Would filing state tax returns in NM using the same EIN potentially trigger Delaware to think I'm still active there?

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LunarEclipse

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Yes, you should have formally dissolved your Delaware LLC by filing a Certificate of Cancellation with the Delaware Division of Corporations. Without formal dissolution, Delaware will continue to consider your entity active and may assess annual franchise taxes and penalties for failure to file. For New Mexico, using the same EIN shouldn't automatically trigger issues with Delaware, as they're separate state systems. However, for clarity in your records and to prevent future confusion, I strongly recommend formally dissolving the Delaware entity. It typically costs around $200 to file the dissolution paperwork, which is much cheaper than continued annual fees or potential penalties. The good news is that most states allow late dissolutions, so you can still properly close the Delaware LLC even though it's been a while since you abandoned it. This clean break will help you avoid any state tax complications while you focus on resolving the federal filing requirements we discussed earlier.

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Yara Khalil

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Just wanted to share what I learned from my tax attorney about this specific situation, as I went through something nearly identical. The key is understanding the distinction between: 1) Your actual legal entities (the Delaware LLC and the New Mexico LLC), which are separate under state law 2) How the IRS classifies and tracks these entities for federal tax purposes For the IRS, since you're a foreign owner of a single-member LLC, your entities are considered "foreign-owned disregarded entities" that have special reporting requirements. The IRS cares less about which state they're in and more about tracking you as the foreign owner. Using the same EIN is correct in your situation, but you ABSOLUTELY need to file those 5472 forms for any years your Delaware LLC existed. The penalties are insane - $25,000 per form per year - and they've been actively enforcing them since 2018.

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Keisha Brown

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Is there a way to check if the IRS has already assessed penalties for the unfiled 5472 forms? I'm worried they might have been sending notices to my old address.

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Has anyone had experience with both FreeTaxUSA and TaxSlayer? I used FreeTaxUSA last year and hit the exact AGI issue mentioned in this post. Considering TaxSlayer for next filing season, but wanted real opinions before switching.

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I've used both! TaxSlayer has a better interface imo and I never had the AGI verification issue with them. Their deluxe version is like $40 and includes one state return which is way cheaper than TurboTax or H&R Block. FreeTaxUSA is cheaper but TaxSlayer's extra guidance was worth it for me.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! The interface quality is important to me, and $40 including a state return sounds reasonable. Did you find TaxSlayer's guidance helpful for more complex tax situations? I have some investment income and a side business I need to report.

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I actually had the opposite experience with FreeTaxUSA. Been using them for 5 years with zero issues. The e-filing has always worked smoothly for me and my returns are fairly complex with self-employment income, investment accounts, and rental property. Their customer service responded within hours when I had questions. Only cost me $12.95 for federal + state filing this past season, which is ridiculously cheap compared to TurboTax ($89+) or H&R Block ($75+). Maybe I've just been lucky but wanted to provide a different perspective!

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Interesting to hear you've had such a good experience! Do you think there might be something specific about certain tax situations that causes the AGI verification issues for some people? Also, have you ever had to amend a return with them, and if so, how was that process?

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I think the AGI verification issues might be related to specific scenarios like amended returns or returns with unusual adjustments. Since my tax situation is complex but consistent year-to-year, that might be why I haven't had problems. I did have to amend a return once due to a late-arriving K-1 form. The amendment process with FreeTaxUSA was actually pretty straightforward. They walk you through which forms need to be updated, generate the 1040-X, and provide clear instructions for mailing the paper amendment. They don't offer e-filing for amendments, but that's true for most tax software since the IRS only recently started accepting e-filed amendments.

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Have you checked if you're eligible for the Earned Income Tax Credit? If your income is around $38,500 you might qualify depending on your exact situation. That could help offset some of what you owe. Also, make sure you're taking the standard deduction which is $13,850 for single filers this year.

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AaliyahAli

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Thanks for the suggestion! I don't think I qualify for EITC since I don't have kids and my income is a bit too high for a single person. I am taking the standard deduction though. It sounds like my real issue is the self-employment taxes on that gig income that I didn't plan for. Lesson learned for next year - I'll be setting aside money each month from my gig work.

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Emma Johnson

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Anyone else notice that the tax software companies make it really easy to miss deductions for self-employed people? I swear they hide that stuff on purpose unless you pay for their premium versions. I switched to FreeTaxUSA last year and found so many more deductions than TurboTax showed me.

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Liam Brown

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Completely agree! TurboTax kept trying to upsell me to their $120 version to "maximize self-employment deductions." FreeTaxUSA found all the same stuff for like $15. And their interface actually explains things better too.

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Emma Johnson

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That's good to know! I felt like I was taking crazy pills when I switched and suddenly found all these deductions TurboTax never mentioned. Their basic version is practically useless for anyone with slightly complicated taxes. FreeTaxUSA actually walks you through the self-employment section with helpful explanations instead of dangling premium features in front of you constantly.

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