How to calculate 1040-ES for Self Employment Tax & finding 2022 tax payment amounts
Hi all, I've been struggling with the 1040-ES form for my quarterly payments and have some specific questions about how to fill it out correctly: 1. On Line 9 where it asks for Self employment tax - am I just supposed to use Line 3 from the 2023 Self-Employment Tax and Deduction Worksheet? I'm getting confused with all these cross-references between forms. 2. For Line 10 "Other taxes" - does this apply to me if I only have W-2 income from my main job plus some freelance work I did this year? Do I put zero here and then my W-2 withholdings go on line 13 instead? 3. I'm completely lost on Line 12b where it asks about my 2022 tax. I went into my IRS account online and found my tax transcripts, but I have no clue which number corresponds to line 24 on the 1040. This is my first year having to make estimated payments and I'm stressing about getting it wrong. Any guidance would be super helpful!
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Emma Davis
The 1040-ES can definitely be confusing when you're first dealing with self-employment taxes! Let me help clarify each of your questions: 1. For Line 9 (Self-employment tax), you're on the right track. Use Line 3 from the Self-Employment Tax and Deduction Worksheet. This represents your SE tax obligation (which is essentially both the employee and employer portions of Social Security and Medicare taxes). 2. Line 10 is for additional taxes beyond income and SE tax. If you only have W-2 and contractor income, this will likely be zero unless you have other special tax situations. And yes, your W-2 withholdings go on Line 13 as those are payments you've already made. 3. For your 2022 tax amount (Line 12b), look at your actual 2022 Form 1040 that you filed. The amount on Line 24 of that form is what you need. If you don't have your return, you can find it on your tax transcript as the "Total Tax" line on the account transcript.
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Malik Johnson
•Thanks for this explanation! For the Line 12b (2022 tax), I'm looking at my account transcript right now and see several entries labeled "tax assessed" but with different dates. Which one would be the right one to use? Also, does the self-employment tax calculation account for the fact that I can deduct half of it on my 1040?
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Emma Davis
•For the account transcript, look for the entry that says "Tax per return" or the final "Tax assessed" amount for your 2022 tax year. It's typically the assessment that matches your original filing date or shortly after. Yes, the Self-Employment Tax and Deduction Worksheet accounts for the deductibility of half your SE tax. That worksheet calculates both your total SE tax (for Line 9 of 1040-ES) and the deductible portion (which affects your income tax calculation earlier in the worksheet). This is why it's important to complete the worksheet in order and carry the numbers forward correctly.
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Isabella Ferreira
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Ravi Sharma
•Does it actually connect to your IRS account to pull the data, or do you have to have your previous returns handy? I filed through H&R Block last year but can't find my copy of the return right now.
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NebulaNomad
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Isabella Ferreira
•It doesn't connect to your IRS account - you'll need to have your information available. But if you don't have your return, you can use the transcript information from the IRS website which is what I did. The transcript has all the same information, just organized differently. The accuracy has been spot-on for me. It's not actually calculating your taxes for you or filing anything - it's just explaining how to interpret the forms and where to find the right information. I've double-checked its explanations with the official IRS instructions and they match up perfectly. It's like having a tax expert explain things in plain English rather than IRS-speak.
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NebulaNomad
I tried out taxr.ai after my last comment and I have to say I'm impressed. I uploaded my 2022 transcript and it immediately pointed out which number was my "total tax" for Line 12b on the 1040-ES. It also explained the self-employment tax calculation in a way that actually made sense - showing that it's 15.3% of my net earnings, but then breaking down how that splits between Social Security and Medicare. Honestly didn't think it would be helpful but it actually showed me I was overpaying on my quarterly estimates by about $430 each quarter because I was calculating my self-employment income wrong. The free IRS worksheets are so confusing with all the cross-references between different forms.
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Freya Thomsen
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Omar Fawaz
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Chloe Martin
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Freya Thomsen
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Chloe Martin
I owe an apology to everyone here. I called Claimyr a scam in my comment yesterday, but I decided to try it this morning as a last resort after getting disconnected THREE more times trying to call the IRS myself. It actually worked exactly as described - I got a call back when an agent was available and got all my 1040-ES questions answered. The agent confirmed that for Line 12b I needed to look at code "150" on my account transcript which shows the tax assessed from my original return. She also explained that for Line 10 "other taxes," this would include things like early withdrawal penalties from retirement accounts or household employment taxes, neither of which applied to me. So that was a zero just like I thought.
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Diego Rojas
Don't forget the safe harbor rule for estimated taxes! As long as you pay either 100% of last year's tax (110% if your AGI was over $150,000) or 90% of this year's tax, you won't face penalties. So if you're struggling with the exact calculations, you can just use 100% of your 2022 tax divided by 4 for each quarterly payment.
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Javier Torres
•That's actually really helpful to know about the safe harbor rule! So if I just take my 2022 total tax and divide by 4, I'm completely covered for this year? Even if I'm making significantly more this year than last year?
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Diego Rojas
•If your income for 2022 was below $150,000 (AGI), then yes, paying 100% of your 2022 tax spread across your four quarterly payments will fully protect you from underpayment penalties regardless of how much more you earn this year. If your 2022 AGI was over $150,000, you'll need to pay 110% of your 2022 tax to qualify for the safe harbor. It's a really useful rule when your income fluctuates or increases, especially for self-employed folks who might not know their exact income until the year ends.
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Anastasia Sokolov
Is anyone else annoyed that the 1040-ES and self-employment tax worksheets aren't better integrated? Like why do I have to jump back and forth between multiple forms just to figure out what to pay? The IRS could make this so much simpler!
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StarSeeker
•Totally agree! And the instructions are written in the most confusing way possible. I'm convinced they do it on purpose so we mess up and they can charge penalties. I spent 3 hours just trying to figure out my first quarterly payment.
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