Received Conserv collection letter with penalty for not filing 2022 1065 IRS return - seeking advice
Just got blindsided with a $5500 bill from Conserv who's apparently handling IRS debt collection. The notice breakdown shows: * Kind of tax: 1065 * Tax Period: 202212 * Tax assessed: $0 * Interest: $580.33 * Penalties: $4950 I'm completely confused because we filed our 2022 and 2023 taxes for this LLC (got extensions and filed within those deadlines) and never received any notice from the IRS until this collection letter showed up today. I've been reading some other discussions that recommend asking Conserv to return the debt to the IRS and then requesting a first time abatement. What's really throwing me is how we can have $0 in tax assessed but nearly $5000 in penalties? Has anyone dealt with this successfully? Any advice on getting this abated would be hugely appreciated. I'm honestly shocked this went straight to collections without any prior notices.
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Kelsey Hawkins
This looks like a late-filing penalty for your partnership return (Form 1065). Even though partnerships don't pay tax at the entity level (which explains the $0 tax assessed), there are still significant penalties for filing late - $195 per month per partner for up to 12 months. The key here is whether you actually filed on time with your extension. Partnership extensions (Form 7004) give you until September 15th to file, not October 15th like individual returns. Many people miss this distinction. If you filed after your extension period ended, that would explain these penalties. Your plan to request the debt be transferred back to the IRS and apply for First-Time Abatement (FTA) is exactly what I would recommend. The IRS typically grants FTA if you have a clean compliance history for the three years prior. You'll need to call the IRS directly once Conserv returns the debt - they can't make abatement decisions.
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Harper Collins
•Thanks for the explanation! I'm worried we might have missed the September 15th deadline - we probably filed in early October thinking we had until the 15th like our personal taxes. Do you think the First-Time Abatement would still apply if we technically did file late, just not realizing the partnership deadline was different?
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Kelsey Hawkins
•Yes, First-Time Abatement can absolutely still apply even if you did file late. That's actually exactly what it's designed for - to provide relief to taxpayers who made an unintentional error or missed a deadline. The September vs October deadline confusion happens frequently with partnerships. If you have a clean compliance history for the three prior years (meaning you filed and paid on time), you have a very good chance of getting this approved. Make sure to explicitly ask for "First-Time Abatement" when you call the IRS after getting the debt transferred back from Conserv.
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Dylan Fisher
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Edwards Hugo
•How does this service work? Does it just look at your notices or does it need access to your full tax returns? I'm a bit hesitant to upload sensitive financial info.
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Gianna Scott
•Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical about how accurate it would be for complex situations. Did it actually work or just tell you what you could have figured out yourself from IRS publications?
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Dylan Fisher
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Gianna Scott
Just wanted to follow up about the taxr.ai recommendation. I was the skeptical one but decided to try it with my partnership's late filing penalty notice. It immediately identified that I qualified for reasonable cause abatement due to some extenuating circumstances I mentioned during the analysis. I called the IRS using the specific reasonable cause arguments the system recommended, and they approved a full abatement of $3,800 in penalties! The transcript analysis showed my correct filing dates which helped prove part of my case. Definitely worth trying if you're facing these penalties.
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Alfredo Lugo
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Sydney Torres
•Wait, how is this even possible? The IRS phone system is notoriously impossible to navigate. Does this service somehow have priority access to the IRS or something?
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Kaitlyn Jenkins
•This sounds like some kind of scam. Why would I pay a third party when I can just keep calling the IRS myself? I bet they just keep your money and you still end up on hold forever.
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Alfredo Lugo
•It doesn't have priority access - it uses technology to continually call the IRS and navigate the phone trees automatically. Once it gets through the queue and a human agent is about to answer, it bridges your call. No special treatment, just automation handling the frustrating hold process. I was also hesitant to try it but getting professional help for my partnership's penalty issue was going to cost way more than the service fee. And unlike hiring a tax pro to represent you (which requires Form 2848 and takes time), you're still the one talking directly to the IRS - you just don't have to waste hours on hold.
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Kaitlyn Jenkins
Coming back to eat my words about Claimyr. After spending three separate days trying to reach the IRS about my 1065 penalties (got disconnected twice after 2+ hour holds), I finally tried the service. Got connected to an IRS agent in 35 minutes without having to actively wait on the phone. Explained my situation about missing the September deadline (thought it was October), and the agent granted first-time abatement immediately. $4,680 in penalties gone in a 10-minute conversation. Would have taken me weeks to resolve otherwise. Sometimes skepticism costs more than it saves.
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Caleb Bell
One thing nobody mentioned yet - check if you actually did receive prior notices. The IRS is required to send multiple notices before sending debt to collections. Pull your IRS account transcripts (can be done online) and it will show all notices sent to you. If they sent notices to an old address or there's no record of prior notices, that strengthens your case for abatement. Also, 1065 penalties are especially harsh because they're designed to enforce timely filing for information returns. The $195/month/partner can add up quickly, which explains your $4950 penalty for what seems like a simple mistake.
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Harper Collins
•That's a great point about checking the transcript for prior notices! I'll definitely do that. Our business did move offices in early 2023, and I'm now wondering if notices were sent to our old address even though we filed a change of address form. Is there a specific way to mention this when requesting abatement?
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Caleb Bell
•If your transcript shows notices were sent but you never received them because of an address issue, definitely mention that when requesting abatement. This falls under "reasonable cause" arguments. Specifically say: "We filed Form 8822-B to change our business address, but it appears notices were sent to our previous location. We never had the opportunity to respond to the original notices before this went to collections." The IRS is generally understanding about address issues, especially if you can show you tried to update your information properly. This would be in addition to requesting First-Time Abatement, giving you multiple angles for relief.
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Danielle Campbell
I hate to be the pessimist, but be prepared for this to take multiple attempts. I had almost identical partnership penalties last year and the first abatement request was denied despite having a clean record. Had to call back, escalate to a supervisor, and be very persistent. Eventually got it abated, but it wasn't the easy one-call fix some people are suggesting. The IRS is incredibly backlogged right now.
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Rhett Bowman
•I second this. My first request was denied too, but second time worked. The key was getting actual IRS transcripts that proved we had good filing history. Just saying "we've always filed on time before" isn't enough - they want to see proof in their system.
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