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Received 1099-R with code P for 2021 after excess 401k contribution - How to avoid amending next year?

So I totally messed up my 401k contributions this year when I switched jobs. Wasn't paying attention and went over the limit because both employers were taking deferrals. Ugh. Good news is I caught it and immediately requested a return of excess as soon as I got my W-2s. Got that taken care of within the timeframe required. Here's my issue - I expected to be able to report this correctly on my 2020 taxes (the year I made the excess contribution), but my 401k provider is refusing to issue a 1099-R with code 8 for 2020. Instead, they're saying they'll issue a 1099-R with code P in 2021. I understand that the earnings portion will be reported with code 8 in 2021 regardless. My concern is just about the excess deferral amount itself, which was 2020 income that should be reported on my 2020 return. I really don't want to have to wait until next year and then go back and amend my 2020 return. I've been researching and found some tax software help sections that suggest "creating" a 1099-R with code 8 myself and then just ignoring the code P form when it arrives next year. I've been reading IRS publication 525 (page 11) and the Instructions for Form 1099-R, which seem relevant to my situation. Anyone have experience with this or suggestions on how to handle it? Is creating my own 1099-R a bad idea?

The tax rules for excess 401(k) deferrals are pretty specific here. When you make excess deferrals in a year (2020) and have them returned by April 15th of the following year (2021), the excess amount is technically taxable in the year the deferral was made (2020), even though the 1099-R reporting might come later. According to IRS Publication 525, the returned excess should be added to your gross income for the tax year in which the excess contribution was made. The 401(k) provider should issue a 1099-R with code 8, but as you've discovered, some providers issue it with code P the following year instead. You can absolutely report this on your 2020 return without waiting for the official 1099-R. You'd include the excess amount as wages on line 1 of your Form 1040. You should keep detailed records of the excess contribution and the return of that excess. When you receive the code P 1099-R next year, you'll need to explain on your 2021 return that you've already included this income on your 2020 return to avoid double taxation. This is done by reporting the 1099-R amount on your 2021 return but then backing it out with an adjustment.

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GalacticGuru

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Thanks for the info, but I'm a bit confused. So I don't need to wait for the official 1099-R with code 8 for 2020? And if I include the excess as wages on my 2020 return now, how exactly do I "back it out" when I get the code P 1099-R next year? Is there a specific form or line I need to use for that adjustment?

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You don't need to wait for the official 1099-R with code 8 since your plan administrator isn't providing one. You should include the excess deferral amount in your 2020 wages (Line 1 of Form 1040) as the IRS requires it to be taxed in the year of deferral when returned by April 15th of the following year. For "backing it out" in 2021, you'll report the full amount from the code P 1099-R on your 2021 return, but then include an offsetting entry. The simplest way is to report it on Schedule 1, Line 8z (Other Income) with a description like "Previously taxed 401(k) excess deferral" and enter the amount as a negative number. This prevents the same income from being taxed twice.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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On the topic of the original post, I had the exact same situation with Fidelity last year. They refused to issue a Code 8 for the year of the excess contribution and only would provide a Code P for the following year. What I ended up doing was including the excess contribution amount on my 2020 return as additional wages (as Publication 525 says to do), then keeping very detailed records of this. When I received the Code P 1099-R in 2021, I reported it on my tax return BUT then included an offsetting negative amount on Schedule 1 with a note explaining it was already included in prior year income. My accountant said this was the correct approach and fully compliant with IRS regulations. The most important thing is keeping good documentation in case you're ever questioned about it.

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Mei Lin

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That's really helpful to know someone else has been through this exact situation with Fidelity. I'm planning to follow the same approach you did. Just to confirm - did you include any special notes or attachments with your 2020 return to explain why you were including additional wage income that didn't match your W-2? Or did you just add it to Line 1 without further explanation?

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Dmitry Ivanov

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I added the excess amount directly to Line 1 on my 1040 for 2020. My accountant also included a statement with the return that briefly explained the situation - basically noting that we were reporting excess 401(k) deferrals returned in 2021 as 2020 income per Publication 525. For my 2021 return, we included a more detailed statement explaining why we were reporting the 1099-R with code P but also including the offsetting negative entry. The key is making sure there's a clear paper trail showing you handled it correctly and aren't double-reporting or missing income.

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Ava Garcia

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Would this situation be handled differently if you didn't catch the excess contribution until after April 15th of the following year? My employer just notified me that I had excess deferrals in 2020 (because of job change) but it's already past April. Am I stuck with penalties now?

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Yes, it's handled quite differently after April 15th! If excess deferrals aren't distributed by April 15th of the year following the year of deferral, you end up with a serious tax headache. In your case, those excess contributions are now essentially "double taxed." They'll be included in your taxable income for the year contributed (2020) AND again when they're eventually distributed from the plan. Additionally, they're still sitting in your 401(k) where they're not supposed to be, which could potentially lead to a 6% excess contribution penalty each year until corrected. You should contact your plan administrator immediately to request a distribution of the excess amount, even though it's late. Some penalties might still apply, but getting it corrected now is better than leaving it uncorrected.

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