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Norman Fraser

Questions about estate tax and trust setup for inheritance planning

So I'm trying to figure out this whole estate tax and trust situation with my aunt who's pretty well off financially. She's getting older (just turned 76) and wants to set things up properly for when she passes. From what I understand, she has assets worth around $6.8 million including her main house in California, a vacation property, and various investments. She mentioned wanting to set up some kind of trust to minimize estate taxes and ensure a smooth transfer to her beneficiaries (mainly me and my cousins). I'm completely lost about how these trusts work though. Is there a difference between revocable and irrevocable trusts for estate tax purposes? And what's the current estate tax threshold before the government starts taking a cut? Also, if she puts property in a trust now, does that mean we avoid probate later? She mentioned something about a "step-up in basis" but I don't fully understand what that means either. I'd really appreciate any guidance on navigating estate tax and trust planning. This is all new territory for me, and I want to make sure we're doing things right.

Kendrick Webb

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Estate planning can definitely feel overwhelming, but I'll try to break down the basics for you. For estate tax purposes, there's a big difference between revocable and irrevocable trusts. A revocable trust (also called a living trust) doesn't shield assets from estate taxes because your aunt would still maintain control over the assets. An irrevocable trust, however, can remove assets from her taxable estate because she permanently transfers ownership of those assets to the trust. As of 2025, the federal estate tax exemption is $13.61 million per individual (though this could change in the future). This means your aunt's $6.8 million estate would currently fall under the federal exemption threshold. However, California has much lower exemption amounts for their state estate tax, so you'll want to check those specific limits. Regarding probate - yes, properly funded trusts (both revocable and irrevocable) avoid the probate process, which saves time and money. As for "step-up in basis," this refers to the readjustment of the value of inherited assets for tax purposes. Basically, when someone inherits property, the cost basis "steps up" to the market value at the time of death, which can significantly reduce capital gains taxes if the beneficiary sells the property later.

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Norman Fraser

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Thanks for explaining! Does that mean my aunt should consider an irrevocable trust if she wants to reduce estate taxes? And what exactly does "properly funded trusts" mean - is that just putting the assets in the trust's name?

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Kendrick Webb

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Your aunt should carefully consider the tradeoffs before choosing an irrevocable trust. While it can reduce estate taxes, she'll lose control over those assets permanently. Given that her estate is currently under the federal exemption threshold, a revocable trust might make more sense as it provides probate avoidance while maintaining her control over the assets during her lifetime. Properly funding a trust means formally transferring ownership of assets into the trust. This involves changing titles on real estate deeds, updating account registrations for financial assets, and assigning ownership of other property to the trust. Many people create trusts but forget this crucial step, which can result in those assets still going through probate despite having a trust document.

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Rajan Walker

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Has anyone considered using a Qualified Personal Residence Trust (QPRT) for property? My financial advisor mentioned it might be good for your aunt's California home since property values there keep climbing like crazy.

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Norman Fraser

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I've never heard of a QPRT. What is that and how would it help with the estate taxes on her house?

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Rajan Walker

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A QPRT (Qualified Personal Residence Trust) lets your aunt transfer her home to beneficiaries at a reduced gift tax value while still living in it for a set period. Basically, she puts her house in an irrevocable trust but keeps the right to live there for a certain number of years (like 10-15 years). The tax benefit comes from how the gift is valued. Since your aunt is keeping the right to live there for years, the value of the gift is discounted significantly from the home's current market value. If she outlives the trust term, the house passes to beneficiaries (you and your cousins) at that discounted value, potentially saving a lot in estate taxes. California property values make this especially valuable.

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet is that you should also consider the income tax implications for beneficiaries. Different trust structures can affect not just estate taxes but also how income is taxed after your aunt passes.

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This is such an important point! My family went with what seemed like the best estate tax strategy, but we're now dealing with terrible income tax consequences. The trust distributes income in a way that puts most beneficiaries in higher tax brackets than if we'd structured things differently.

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Ev Luca

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Don't forget about life insurance as part of this! My parents set up an irrevocable life insurance trust (ILIT) to provide liquidity for estate taxes without the insurance proceeds themselves being subject to estate tax. Might be worth looking into.

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Norman Fraser

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That's interesting - how exactly does the life insurance trust work? Would the policy need to be purchased by the trust or can existing policies be transferred?

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Ev Luca

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Life insurance trusts (ILITs) can work with new or existing policies, but there are important timing considerations with existing policies. If your aunt transfers an existing policy to an ILIT and then passes away within three years, the insurance proceeds will still be included in her taxable estate (this is called the "three-year rule"). For new policies, the trust would apply for and own the policy from the start, avoiding the three-year rule. Your aunt would make annual gifts to the trust to cover premium payments. These gifts typically qualify for the annual gift tax exclusion ($18,000 per beneficiary in 2025) if structured with proper "Crummey powers" that give beneficiaries temporary withdrawal rights. The big advantage is that when structured correctly, the insurance proceeds aren't included in her taxable estate but are available to pay estate taxes, equalize inheritances among beneficiaries, or provide liquidity so other assets don't have to be sold quickly.

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As someone who recently went through estate planning with my elderly father, I'd strongly recommend your aunt work with both an estate planning attorney AND a CPA who specializes in estate taxes. The interplay between federal estate tax, California state rules, and income tax implications is incredibly complex. One thing that caught my attention in your post is that your aunt's $6.8 million estate might actually benefit from some strategic gifting now while she's alive. She can give $18,000 per year to each beneficiary (you and your cousins) without any gift tax consequences, which gradually reduces her taxable estate. Over several years, this could bring her estate down further below the federal exemption threshold. Also, since she's 76, she should consider her health and longevity when choosing between revocable and irrevocable strategies. Irrevocable trusts offer better tax benefits but require giving up control permanently. At her age, a revocable trust might provide the right balance of flexibility and probate avoidance, especially since her estate is currently under the federal exemption. Don't rush into any decisions - this stuff is permanent once you sign the documents. Take time to understand all the options and their long-term implications for both your aunt and the beneficiaries.

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Dana Doyle

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This is really comprehensive advice! I'm curious about the strategic gifting you mentioned - with multiple cousins as beneficiaries, could my aunt potentially gift $18,000 to each of us every year? That could add up to significant estate reduction over time. Also, when you mention working with both an attorney AND a CPA, did you find they coordinated well together or did you have to manage the communication between them yourself?

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