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17 Just want to add that whatever you do, make sure you file your return by the deadline even if you can't pay right away! The penalty for not filing (5% per month) is TEN TIMES higher than the penalty for not paying (0.5% per month). Also, depending on how much you owe, you might have different options. If it's under $50,000, the online payment agreement is super easy. If it's less than $100,000, you can still do it online but with different terms. Over $100k and you'll probably need to fill out Form 9465 and maybe Form 433-F.
4 Does setting up a payment plan affect your credit score? I'm worried about that since I'm planning to apply for a mortgage later this year...
17 Setting up a payment plan itself doesn't directly impact your credit score - the IRS doesn't report installment agreements to credit bureaus. However, if you owe more than $10,000, the IRS may file a tax lien, which can affect your credit. The good news is that if you owe less than $50,000 and set up a direct debit installment plan, the IRS generally won't file a tax lien. So if you're applying for a mortgage later, getting on a payment plan quickly is actually better than leaving the tax debt unaddressed.
5 Just a quick tip from someone who's been there - if you're using TurboTax, H&R Block, or TaxAct, they actually do have options to help with IRS payment plans. Look for something called "Easy Pay" or "Pay with IRS" options in the payment section. Some of them will even e-file your extension for free if you need more time!
9 Which software specifically has these options? I'm using TaxSlayer and can't seem to find anything like that in their payment section.
Quick tip from someone who's been through this multiple times: If you can pay within 120 days, you don't technically need to set up a formal payment plan. You can select the "payment plan" option when you e-file, but choose "one-time payment" and set the date up to 120 days in the future. This way you avoid the installment plan setup fee (which is $31 for online payment plans), but you'll still pay the interest and late payment penalties. Just set a calendar reminder because the IRS won't send you one!
But isn't it better to break it into multiple payments? What if I can't come up with the entire amount in one payment, even after 120 days?
If you can't pay the full amount within 120 days, then you definitely want to set up the installment agreement with monthly payments. That's a different option in the online payment system. The installment agreement is great if you need more time, but it does come with a setup fee and you'll have to make regular monthly payments. With the 120-day option, you're just telling the IRS you'll pay in full by a certain date, and they don't charge a setup fee for that arrangement.
Is this really worth stressing about? I just didn't file for 2 years when I couldn't pay, and eventually they just sent me some letters. I paid it all last year and everything was fine.
This is TERRIBLE advice! Not filing is the worst thing you can do. The IRS charges a failure-to-file penalty of 5% of your unpaid taxes for each month your tax return is late, up to 25%. The failure-to-pay penalty is only 0.5% per month. Plus, there's a statute of limitations on how far back the IRS can audit you, but it doesn't start until you file. So by not filing, you're keeping yourself open to audit indefinitely. I learned this the hard way. Don't repeat my mistake.
You could also consider using a US-based friend or family member's bank account if you have someone you trust. I did this when I moved back to France - my sister in the US made the payment for me through Direct Pay and I just sent her the money via TransferWise (now Wise).
Is that actually allowed by the IRS though? Wouldn't they want the payment to come from the person who owes the tax?
The IRS doesn't actually care who makes the payment as long as it's properly credited to your tax account. You just need to make sure the payment includes your name, tax ID number, form type (1040-NR), and tax year. This is common for married couples where one spouse pays both tax bills, parents paying for their kids, or employers paying for employees in some cases. The key is making sure the payment information correctly identifies whose tax account should be credited.
A tip from someone who's been through this: if you owe less than $1, the IRS actually doesn't require you to pay it! They'll just write it off. For anything $1-$50, they technically require payment but I've never heard of anyone having issues if they don't pay tiny amounts.
This is terrible advice. The IRS absolutely tracks everything, even small amounts. My friend ignored a $12 balance and two years later got a notice with penalties and interest that had grown to over $40. Just pay what you owe.
Don't forget that besides the training, you'll need to get your PTIN (Preparer Tax Identification Number) from the IRS before you can legally prepare returns for compensation. It's pretty easy to get one on the IRS website, costs around $35.95 for new applications I think. Also, consider what tax software you'll use. Professional versions of tax software can be expensive, and that's an additional investment beyond just the training. I started with Drake Tax Software because they had a good balance of features and cost for a newbie.
Thanks for mentioning that! I had no idea about needing a PTIN or the software costs. Are there any decent budget options for software when just starting out with a few clients, or do you really need to invest in the professional versions right away?
There are definitely budget-friendly options when you're just starting out. TaxAct Professional and TaxSlayer Pro offer lower-cost entry packages for new preparers with a small client base. Some even have pay-per-return options which might be more economical if you're only doing a handful of returns. Drake also offers a "pay-per-return" option that might work better for your first season than their full package. I'd recommend trying the demos of a few different software options before committing - they all have different interfaces and workflows. ProSeries and Lacerte are more expensive but very popular if your business grows.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned - consider specializing in a particular niche rather than trying to be a generalist. When I started doing tax prep on the side, I focused specifically on gig workers and rideshare drivers because there were so many in my area. By specializing, your marketing becomes easier, you can charge premium rates for your expertise, and you don't have to learn EVERYTHING about tax law at once. You can gradually expand your knowledge base as you go.
Connor Murphy
One thing to consider that no one's mentioned yet - the "at-risk" rules also apply to rental property losses. Even if you navigate the passive activity rules, you can only claim losses to the extent you're financially at risk in the activity. With an inherited property you didn't buy, this could be different than if you'd purchased it with your own money.
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Yara Haddad
ā¢Could you explain more about the "at-risk" rules? If the property was inherited with no mortgage, how would that affect being "at risk"?
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Connor Murphy
ā¢The "at-risk" rules basically limit your deductible losses to the amount you have financially invested in the activity that you could potentially lose. For an inherited property with no mortgage, your at-risk amount would typically include the stepped-up basis of the property, plus any additional money you've invested in improvements or maintenance. Since your basis is $1.6M (according to your post), your at-risk amount is substantial, so it's unlikely to limit your losses in the near term. This is different from someone who might have acquired a property with little money down and a large mortgage, where their at-risk amount might be much smaller than the property value.
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Keisha Robinson
Has anyone used TurboTax to handle a situation like this? I have similar rental losses and wondering if the software can handle all these passive activity rules correctly.
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Paolo Conti
ā¢I used TurboTax last year for my rental property. It asks questions about your participation level and automatically applies the passive activity rules. It worked well for my situation, but mine was pretty straightforward. With your large stepped-up basis and significant depreciation, you might want to use their Live version where you can talk to a tax expert during the process.
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