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You might want to keep records of the exact mechanism of how you're earning that interest. There's a difference between: 1) Interest from lending your crypto to a centralized platform 2) Interest from DeFi lending protocols 3) Staking rewards 4) Liquidity providing rewards Each might be treated differently if wash-sale rules get applied to crypto. The IRS might view some passive earnings differently than others depending on how much control/action you have in the process.
That's a really good point I hadn't considered. My Bitcoin interest is coming from a centralized exchange (just a basic interest account), but I also have some ETH in DeFi protocols. Do you think the source matters that much for potential wash-sale considerations?
The source could definitely matter. Centralized exchange interest accounts are pretty straightforward - they're clearly interest, similar to a bank account. DeFi gets murkier because sometimes you're technically swapping your asset for a derivative token (like depositing ETH but receiving aETH or similar). In traditional finance, if you exchange one security for another that's considered "substantially identical," it can still trigger wash-sale rules. So if crypto wash-sale rules get implemented, there might be questions about whether your original ETH and the derivative token you receive are "substantially identical" for tax purposes.
There's also the consideration of how new rules would be implemented. Most tax changes aren't retroactive. The Build Back Better Act had proposed crypto wash-sale rules, but it didn't pass. New legislation would likely have an effective date from passage forward, not back to Jan 2022.
Actually, the Infrastructure Bill from last November did include some retroactive tax reporting requirements for crypto. So it's not impossible for them to do retroactive changes, especially for "clarifications" of existing rules rather than completely new taxes.
One option you haven't considered is the "last-month rule" (also called the "full-contribution rule"). If you had HDHP coverage on December 1st, 2023, you can actually contribute the FULL annual limit, BUT you must remain HDHP-eligible for the entire following year (through Dec 31, 2024). This is called the "testing period." If you don't maintain eligibility throughout 2024, the excess contributions will be subject to income tax AND an additional 10% tax penalty. So it's a bit risky if you're not sure about your 2024 health coverage. This would allow you to keep your full $3850 contribution and claim the full deduction, but you need to be confident you'll have HDHP coverage all through 2024.
I had no idea about this rule! So if I stay on my HDHP through all of 2024, I can keep the full $3850 contribution for 2023, even though I only had coverage starting in May 2023? Do I need to indicate this somehow on my 2023 Form 8889?
Yes, exactly! If you had HDHP coverage on December 1, 2023, you qualify for the "last-month rule" and can contribute the full $3,850 for 2023 - as long as you maintain HDHP coverage for all of 2024. On Form 8889, you'll need to check the box on line 3 that says "If you, and your spouse if filing jointly, had an HDHP for the entire year, check the box..." This indicates you're using the last-month rule. You would then enter the full-year contribution limit on line 3. Just remember this comes with that testing period requirement - if you don't maintain HDHP coverage through December 31, 2024, you'll have to include the "excess" portion in your income for 2024 plus pay that additional 10% tax.
Quick question about HSAs - I contributed through my employer's payroll deduction throughout 2023. Do I still need to file Form 8889? My tax software isn't prompting me for it even though I have an HSA.
Yes, you absolutely need to file Form 8889, even with employer payroll deductions. Your tax software might not be prompting you because it doesn't know you have an HSA. You need to specifically tell it that you contributed to an HSA. Look for the section in your tax software about HSAs, health accounts, or tax deductions/credits. Once you indicate you have an HSA, it should generate Form 8889. The form is required for ALL HSA contributions and distributions, regardless of how they were made. Your W-2 should show HSA contributions in box 12 with code W if they were made through payroll.
For your S-corp, have you looked into retroactive retirement plans? Solo 401k plans can be established up until the tax filing deadline INCLUDING EXTENSIONS (so potentially Oct 15), and could allow significantly higher contributions than a SEP IRA depending on your specific situation. You'd need to establish the plan before April 15 though, even if you file an extension. Another option: check if you qualify for the Qualified Business Income (QBI) deduction, which could give you up to 20% off your pass-through business income. Review your health insurance setup too - if structured correctly, S-corp shareholders can deduct premiums.
I thought Solo 401ks were only for self-employed individuals without employees. Doesn't an S-Corp usually have at least the owner as an employee? Would this still work if the owner is the only employee?
You're right to question this - I should have been more specific. A Solo 401k can work for an S-Corp if the only employees are the owner (and potentially their spouse). If the S-Corp has any other W-2 employees who work more than 1,000 hours per year, then you'd need a regular 401k plan with non-discrimination testing. If OP only has themselves (and possibly their spouse) as employees, then the Solo 401k is still an option and could allow for higher contribution limits than a SEP IRA in many cases, especially when you consider both the employer and employee contribution components.
Maybe this is a dumb question but have you claimed the home office deduction? I have an S-Corp and my accountant says many business owners miss this. If you use a space exclusively for business, you can deduct a portion of your rent/mortgage, utilities, internet, etc. Could save you a decent amount!
Not a dumb question at all, but with an S-Corp, the home office deduction works differently than for sole proprietors. The corporation should reimburse you for the home office expenses rather than taking them directly on your personal return. The S-Corp can deduct the reimbursement and it's not taxable income to you if done correctly.
I made the switch from LLC to S-corp for my electrical contracting business last year. Here's what I learned: - The tax savings are real. I saved about $7k in self-employment taxes by taking part of my income as distributions instead of all as salary. - BUT the paperwork and compliance requirements increased significantly. You need to run actual payroll, do quarterly filings, have more detailed bookkeeping, etc. - You absolutely need a good accountant for an S-corp. I tried doing it myself at first and made some mistakes that could have been costly. - The sweet spot where S-corp makes sense is when you're consistently making $40-50k+ in profit. For receipt tracking, I've been using Expensify and it's been great for construction work. Their SmartScan feature is really accurate with contractor supply stores like Home Depot and Lowe's receipts.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Do you think it makes sense to form an S-corp right away when switching from single-member LLC to having employees? Or should I stay as an LLC taxed as a partnership first until I hit that $40-50k profit consistently?
I'd recommend staying as an LLC taxed as a partnership first until you're consistently hitting that profit threshold. You can always convert to an S-corp later, and it's much easier than going the other direction. The LLC with employees will still give you the liability protection you need, but with less administrative overhead. One thing I forgot to mention - with an S-corp, you must pay yourself a "reasonable salary" before taking distributions. The IRS watches this closely. For construction contractors, that's typically 60-70% of your profit as salary at minimum. So if your profits are tight or inconsistent, the S-corp advantages diminish since most of your income will need to be salary anyway.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - PLEASE make sure you're charging enough for your work! I'm a contractor too and had the same problem for years. I'd underbid jobs trying to be competitive, then end up barely breaking even after expenses. Two things that helped me: 1. Track EVERYTHING for a few jobs - your time (including estimating, driving, cleanup), materials, equipment wear, fuel, etc. Most contractors don't realize how much all the little things add up. 2. Add at least 20% to whatever you think a job should cost. I was amazed that customers still hired me after raising prices - turns out quality work is worth paying for. You can't fix your tax situation if your business isn't profitable enough in the first place!
Jessica Nguyen
Check your W4 form with your employer. If you had it set to 0 allowances (on the old system) or didn't adjust it on the new W4 system, a tiny refund is actually GOOD. Means you kept more of your $ during the year instead of giving IRS interest-free loan. People getting huge refunds just had too much withheld.
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Isaiah Thompson
ā¢How do you check if you're withholding the right amount? I always get really small refunds too and I'm never sure if that's good or bad.
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Jessica Nguyen
ā¢The IRS has a tax withholding estimator on their website that's actually pretty accurate. You input your income, filing status, and other tax situations, and it tells you if you're on track. You can adjust your W-4 anytime with your employer if you want a bigger refund (more withholding) or more money in each paycheck (less withholding). Small refunds are technically better financially because you've had access to more of your money throughout the year instead of waiting for a refund. But some people prefer larger refunds as a form of forced savings.
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Ruby Garcia
Not to be a downer but $102k with ONLY $380 back sounds like something might be off? I made $100k last year, single no kids, and got back $1,450. Maybe check if he claimed all your standard deduction? Or if your state taxes were done right?
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Alexander Evans
ā¢It really depends entirely on how much was withheld from each paycheck though. You probably just had more withheld throughout the year.
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Ruby Garcia
ā¢True, withholding makes all the difference. My job tends to withhold a bit more than necessary. I also contribute to a traditional 401k which lowers my taxable income pretty significantly, forgot to mention that. That probably explains the difference between our refund amounts. Might be worth checking if you have any retirement contributions or other pre-tax deductions that could have been missed.
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