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How are estate taxes handled when all assets are in brokerage/IRA accounts with designated beneficiaries?

Title: How are estate taxes handled when all assets are in brokerage/IRA accounts with designated beneficiaries? 1 I've been trying to figure out estate planning for my aunt who's getting up there in age. From what I've researched, accounts that have named beneficiaries (like her IRAs and brokerage accounts) bypass probate and go straight to those beneficiaries when someone passes. But here's what's confusing me - if her total assets end up exceeding the estate tax exemption threshold, how would the estate tax actually get paid if literally everything goes directly to the beneficiaries? Does my understanding of how beneficiary designations work have a flaw? Or is there some mechanism where the IRS can go after the beneficiaries to collect the estate tax that's owed? My aunt has most of her wealth (around $13.8 million) split between various retirement accounts and investment portfolios, all with beneficiaries listed, and I'm trying to help her understand the potential tax implications.

8 You've got the beneficiary part right, but there's a bit more to the estate tax picture. When someone passes away, their executor is responsible for filing an estate tax return (Form 706) if the estate exceeds the exemption amount. The way it typically works is that the executor notifies the financial institutions holding the accounts about the death before distributions happen. The executor can request that a portion of those assets be held back to cover potential estate taxes. If that doesn't happen and all assets are distributed, the IRS can indeed come after the beneficiaries proportionally for their share of the tax liability. This is called "transferee liability." For your aunt's situation, having the right executor who understands these obligations is crucial. Also, she might want to consider whether life insurance held in a proper trust could provide liquidity to cover potential estate taxes without touching the investment accounts.

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12 Thanks for this explanation. Quick follow-up question - what happens if the beneficiaries have already spent the money by the time the IRS comes looking for the estate taxes? And roughly how long after someone's passing would the estate tax need to be paid?

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8 If beneficiaries have already spent the money, they're still liable for their portion of the estate tax. The IRS doesn't particularly care if the money is gone - the tax obligation remains. They can pursue collection actions just like any other tax debt. As for timing, an estate tax return must be filed within 9 months of death, though extensions are possible. The tax is also due at that 9-month mark, though the executor can request installment payments in some cases. This timeline is why it's critical for the executor to act quickly to ensure assets aren't fully distributed before tax obligations are addressed.

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7 How does this actually work with accounts that have named beneficiaries? My dad has everything set up with TOD (transfer on death) designations, and I'm worried the money will be distributed before we even realize there's an estate tax issue.

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15 It actually has a feature specifically for TOD and beneficiary accounts - it helps create the proper notification letters to send to financial institutions before distributions occur. That way they know to hold the funds until the estate tax situation is resolved. Saved us from a potential nightmare. For the paperwork question - yes, it helped with both. It generated draft letters to financial institutions and helped compile the information needed for Form 706. The system handles state estate taxes too - it identified that we had exposure in two states and calculated the different exemption amounts for each state. Really comprehensive.

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3 Don't want to complicate things further, but don't forget about possible state estate/inheritance taxes too! Federal exemption is quite high ($12.92 million for 2023), but some states have MUCH lower thresholds. For example, Massachusetts and Oregon tax estates over $1 million. The interaction between beneficiary designations and state estate taxes follows similar principles to federal, but with different thresholds and sometimes different rules.

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17 Which states actually have these lower estate tax thresholds? Is there a simple list somewhere? My parents have property in multiple states and I'm trying to figure out if this is something we need to worry about.

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3 As of 2023, the states with estate taxes are: Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, and the District of Columbia. The exemption thresholds range from around $1 million (Massachusetts, Oregon) to $9.1 million (Connecticut). Some states also have inheritance taxes, which are different - they're based on who receives the assets rather than the total estate value. Those states are Iowa, Kentucky, Maryland, Nebraska, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania. Maryland actually has both types of taxes! If your parents have property in multiple states, you definitely need to look into each state's rules. The concept of "domicile" becomes really important in determining which state's laws apply.

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14 Question for anyone who knows: If I'm the executor of an estate AND a beneficiary of an IRA, am I personally liable if I distribute the IRA to myself (as the beneficiary) before paying the estate taxes? This is keeping me up at night.

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8 Yes, you would be personally liable in two ways. First, as the executor, you have a fiduciary duty to handle the estate properly, which includes paying taxes before distributions. Second, as a beneficiary receiving assets from a taxable estate, you have transferee liability for your proportionate share of estate taxes. The IRS can come after you both as the executor who failed to ensure taxes were paid and as the beneficiary who received assets that should have been used to pay taxes. I strongly recommend getting professional help with this situation to avoid serious personal liability.

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