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Qualifying for QBI Deduction on Freelance Income - How easy is it?

I've been playing around with my 2023 taxes using the TurboTax online version, and something interesting came up. TurboTax simply stated that I qualify for a QBI (Qualified Business Income) deduction of 20% on my freelance income. This caught me off guard because I had similar freelance work last year, but when I used TurboTax desktop version, it never mentioned anything about QBI for me. When I went back to that section to review what it said, it just stated I qualified - no further action needed on my part. Is getting the QBI deduction on freelance income really this straightforward? Has TurboTax made changes this year to better identify QBI opportunities for freelancers? Some context: My freelance gigs don't bring in a ton of money, so I'm nowhere near any thresholds that would phase out the deduction. (I basically just help out at another company when they need extra hands doing similar work to my regular job). I don't have any expenses related to the freelance work, no formal contract, and I just get a 1099-NEC at year-end. If this is legitimate, I'm wondering if I should amend my return from last year to include the QBI deduction. My freelance income was actually much higher last year - could potentially get back around $850 in taxes if I did an amendment.

Yes, it really is that simple for most freelancers! The QBI deduction allows eligible self-employed individuals and small business owners to deduct up to 20% of their qualified business income, and if you're receiving 1099-NEC income, you typically qualify automatically as long as you're below the income thresholds. The income thresholds where phase-outs begin are pretty high ($170,050 for single filers and $340,100 for joint filers in 2023), so most freelancers don't need to worry about them. Since you mentioned you're nowhere near the thresholds, the 20% deduction should apply straightforwardly to your freelance income after expenses. As for why TurboTax desktop didn't catch this last year - it could be either an improvement in their software or possibly you missed a prompt in the previous version. The online version tends to get updates more frequently.

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Thanks for confirming! I honestly thought I was missing something because it seemed too good to be true. Do you think it's worth amending my 2022 return to claim this deduction? I made about $4,300 in freelance income last year, so the potential refund would be decent.

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For your 2022 return, it's absolutely worth amending if you qualified for QBI but didn't claim it. With $4,300 in freelance income, a 20% QBI deduction would reduce your taxable income by about $860. Depending on your tax bracket, that could mean several hundred dollars back in your pocket. The amendment process is straightforward using Form 1040-X, and you generally have up to three years from the original filing date to amend. Just make sure the potential refund justifies the time and any costs if you're paying someone to help with the amendment.

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Did this actually work with complicated situations? I have freelance income plus a rental property and W2 job. Would it handle all that correctly or get confused?

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Just wanted to update after trying taxr.ai from the recommendation above. I was surprised how well it worked for my situation! I uploaded my previous return and it immediately identified that I qualified for QBI on both my freelance graphic design income AND my rental property (which I didn't realize could qualify under certain circumstances). The analysis showed I could amend my previous year's return and get back around $1,240. It even explained exactly which forms I needed to file for the amendment. Definitely worth checking out if you have multiple income sources and aren't sure about the QBI rules.

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Well I'm eating my hat now. After seeing the comment about Claimyr I decided to give it a shot because I needed to ask about including QBI on my amendment. Got connected to an IRS agent in 17 minutes after trying unsuccessfully for DAYS on my own. The agent confirmed that as a freelancer receiving 1099-NEC I absolutely qualify for the QBI deduction even without business expenses, and gave me the exact instructions for how to document it on my amended return. Apparently lots of people miss this deduction. Already submitted my amendment for last year and expecting about $780 back!

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Just wanted to add - make sure you're calculating the QBI correctly. It's 20% of your QUALIFIED business income, not just 20% of whatever is on your 1099. You need to subtract business expenses first, then calculate the 20%.

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But what if I don't have any business expenses like in my situation? Is QBI just 20% of the gross 1099-NEC amount then?

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If you truly have zero business expenses, then yes, your QBI would be 20% of your gross 1099-NEC amount. That's pretty unusual though - most freelancers have at least some expenses like home office, supplies, software subscriptions, or mileage. Even small deductions can add up. Many freelancers miss legitimate deductions because they don't realize what qualifies. Even a portion of your cell phone bill or internet could be deductible if you use them for work. That said, if your situation genuinely involves no expenses whatsoever, then the full 1099 amount would be your qualified business income.

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I've been getting this QBI deduction for years on my freelance income. Super simple. One thing to watch for though - if you start making more from freelancing, remember there are phaseout thresholds. Made that mistake one year and had an unpleasant surprise at tax time lol

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What are the current thresholds where it phases out? I'm starting to do more freelance work and wondering if I need to worry about this.

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For 2024, the QBI deduction starts phasing out at $191,050 for single filers and $382,100 for married filing jointly. The phaseout is complete at $241,050 (single) and $482,100 (joint). So you've got quite a bit of runway before you need to worry about it! The phaseout rules get more complex too - certain service businesses face additional restrictions during the phaseout range, but most freelancers don't hit these thresholds unless they're doing really well.

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