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Emily Sanjay

Partnership Taxes - Do we really need to save 30% of income for taxes?

I recently started a business partnership with my college roommate. We met with the Small Business Association last month who advised us to set aside 30% of our income for taxes. Honestly, this seems excessive and would really limit our ability to grow the business in these early stages. We're barely covering our operating costs as it is, and if we're holding back 30% in a separate account, that leaves us with almost nothing to reinvest in inventory, marketing, or expanding our service offerings. Are partnerships really subject to such high tax rates? I'm wondering if there are deductions or strategies we're not aware of that could lower our tax burden. If we don't actually need to reserve that full 30%, it would be incredibly helpful to free up some of that capital for business development. We did recently hire a CPA, but I wanted to get some outside perspectives before our call tomorrow. We're only a few months into our business journey and trying to figure everything out as we go. Any advice would be appreciated!

Jordan Walker

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The 30% guideline isn't unreasonable, but it really depends on your specific situation. That percentage is covering several different tax obligations - your federal income tax, self-employment tax (which is 15.3% on its own), and potentially state/local taxes. As partners, you'll each receive a Schedule K-1 showing your share of the partnership's income, which flows through to your personal tax returns. The partnership itself doesn't pay income taxes - you and your partner do individually on your respective shares. What makes a difference is your total personal income (including any other sources), your deductible business expenses, and other personal deductions you might have. The partnership can deduct legitimate business expenses before calculating your profits, which can significantly reduce your taxable income. I'd suggest working with your CPA to create a more tailored tax projection based on your expected business income, expenses, and personal tax situations. This might give you a more accurate percentage to set aside rather than the general 30% rule.

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Natalie Adams

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Does this mean I should be making quarterly estimated tax payments? Our SBA advisor never mentioned that part. Or does the 30% savings account for that?

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Jordan Walker

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Yes, you should be making quarterly estimated tax payments if you expect to owe at least $1,000 in taxes. Those payments are typically due April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15 of the following year. The 30% savings guideline is meant to ensure you have enough set aside to make those quarterly payments. If you don't make sufficient estimated payments, you could face underpayment penalties come tax time. Your CPA can help you calculate the appropriate quarterly payment amounts based on your projected income.

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Amara Torres

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How accurate was it compared to what your actual tax bill ended up being? Our first quarterly payment is coming up and I'm freaking out about getting it wrong.

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Does it work for different entity types? We're technically an LLC that chose partnership taxation, not a formal partnership.

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For my situation, it was within about $300 of my actual tax bill on $78K of income, so pretty darn accurate. The quarterly estimates it generated were spot-on, and I never had to worry about underpayment penalties. It actually adjusts as your income changes throughout the year too. Yes, it absolutely works for LLCs taxed as partnerships! That's actually what we have too. The system handles various entity types including LLCs with partnership taxation. It looks at your operating agreement and how profits/losses are distributed to give you the right calculations for your specific situation.

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Amara Torres

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Just wanted to follow up here. I tried taxr.ai after posting that question and wow - it actually gave me a much clearer picture. Turns out our specific partnership structure and the industry we're in qualifies us for some additional deductions I had no idea about. The tool estimated we really only need to set aside about 22% for taxes given our expenses and deduction eligibility. That 8% difference means we can actually afford to hire the part-time help we've been needing! The quarterly payment calculator also showed me exactly what I'll need to pay each quarter which has been super helpful for cash flow planning. It's so much better than the generic "save 30%" advice we were going with before. Definitely recommend to other new business owners.

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Mason Kaczka

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Evelyn Xu

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Dominic Green

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Has anyone used a SEP IRA to reduce their partnership tax burden? Our CPA mentioned it but I'm not sure if it's worth setting up.

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Hannah Flores

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Absolutely worth it. We set one up last year and were able to contribute about 20% of our net earnings, which significantly dropped our taxable income. The contribution limits are way higher than regular IRAs too. Just make sure you understand the rules around employee contributions if you have any.

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Dominic Green

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Thanks for sharing your experience! Did you have to set it up before the end of the tax year, or can you still make contributions up until you file?

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Hannah Flores

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You have until the filing deadline (including extensions) to both establish the SEP IRA and make contributions for the previous tax year. So for 2024 taxes, you can set it up and contribute as late as October 2025 if you file an extension. It's one of the few retirement options that gives you that flexibility, which is why it's so popular with partnerships and self-employed folks. We waited until we knew our exact numbers before making our contribution, which helped us dial in the tax savings precisely.

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The 30% guideline is definitely high for most small partnerships. We've been operating for 5 years now and usually end up paying closer to 20-22% after all deductions. Don't forget you can write off things like: - Business travel - Home office (if you qualify) - Health insurance premiums - 50% of meals with clients/prospects - Vehicle expenses if used for business - Professional development/continuing education - Business insurance Make sure your CPA is aggressive (but legal) with identifying all possible deductions. That SBA advice is a good starting place, but it's definitely on the conservative side.

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This is super helpful, thank you! We've been tracking expenses but weren't sure about some of these categories. Are there specific records we need to keep for the home office deduction?

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For the home office deduction, you need to measure the square footage of your dedicated workspace versus your entire home to calculate the percentage used for business. Keep receipts for all home-related expenses (utilities, internet, rent/mortgage, insurance, repairs) as you'll apply that same percentage to these costs. Take photos of your home office setup and maintain a log showing regular use. The space must be used exclusively for business - a corner of your bedroom doesn't qualify if you're also sleeping there. The IRS scrutinizes this deduction, so documentation is key. A separate entrance is ideal but not required. Your CPA can help determine if the regular deduction or simplified method (currently $5 per square foot up to 300 sq ft) is better for your situation.

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Grace Lee

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Yall are overthinking this. Just keep good records, pay your quarterly estimates based on last year's income (100% of prior year tax is safe harbor to avoid penalties), and let your CPA sort it out at tax time. The 30% rule is fine if you're making decent money, might be overkill if you're just starting out. Use the rest to grow your biz!

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Emily Sanjay

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That's super reassuring, thanks! We definitely want to follow the rules but also not handicap our growth in these early stages. I'll talk to our CPA about the safe harbor provision you mentioned.

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As someone who went through this exact same situation when I started my partnership two years ago, I completely understand the stress! The 30% rule felt crushing when we were barely breaking even. Here's what I learned: that percentage includes federal income tax, self-employment tax (15.3%), and potential state taxes. But the actual amount you'll owe depends heavily on your business expenses and personal tax situation. A few things that helped us reduce our tax burden: - Maxing out business expense deductions (software subscriptions, office supplies, professional services) - Setting up a SEP-IRA for retirement contributions (big tax deduction) - Keeping meticulous records for vehicle use, client meals, and home office space - Timing major business purchases strategically Our first year we set aside the full 30% and ended up with a nice refund. Now we're more comfortable with 23-24% because we have a better handle on our deduction patterns. The key is working with your CPA to project your specific situation rather than relying on generic advice. Every partnership is different based on profit splits, other income sources, and expense levels. Good luck with your call tomorrow!

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