Owe $250,000 to IRS - desperately need payment plan advice!
Title: Owe $250,000 to IRS - desperately need payment plan advice! 1 I'm completely freaking out right now. Just found out I owe the IRS approximately $250,000 due to some investment income that wasn't properly reported over several years (long story, partly my fault and partly my previous accountant's mistake). I need to negotiate with the IRS for a payment plan and hopefully get some kind of reduction on the amount owed because there's no way I can pay this in full. I've talked to a tax attorney who wants to charge a flat fee of $13,500 to handle our case and negotiate with the IRS. Is this fee normal or am I being scammed? The amount seems really high, but I'm desperate. Do I even need an actual lawyer for this kind of situation, or would a tax resolution specialist work just as well for less money? Has anyone been through a similar situation with a large IRS debt? Any advice would be so appreciated.
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Lara Woods
15 I've worked with many clients in similar situations. The attorney fee of $13,500 is actually within the normal range for a complex case involving $250,000 in tax debt. However, you have options beyond immediately hiring an attorney. First, you should know the IRS has several programs for taxpayers who can't pay their full tax debt. The main ones are installment agreements, Offer in Compromise (OIC), and Currently Not Collectible status. An installment agreement lets you pay over time, an OIC lets you settle for less than the full amount, and Currently Not Collectible temporarily pauses collection if you can prove financial hardship. Before hiring anyone, I'd recommend calling the IRS directly to discuss what payment options might be available based on your specific situation. The IRS is often willing to work with taxpayers who proactively reach out.
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Lara Woods
•6 But isn't the IRS impossible to get through to on the phone? I tried calling them about a much smaller issue last year and couldn't get through after being on hold for 2+ hours.
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Lara Woods
•15 You're right that reaching the IRS by phone can be challenging. The best times to call are early in the morning right when they open or later in the week (Thursday/Friday). The main IRS number can have long wait times, but if you call the specific collections department, you might have better luck. If you're struggling with a $250,000 tax debt, I would recommend at least consulting with a professional before attempting to negotiate on your own. A consultation doesn't mean you have to hire them. Many tax professionals offer initial consultations at low or no cost where they can give you a better idea of what your options are based on your specific situation.
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Lara Woods
8 Hey there, I went through something similar last year (not quite as much as you - I owed about $180k). After trying to handle it myself and getting nowhere, I discovered a service called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that really helped me understand my options before I spent thousands on professional representation. They analyzed all my tax documents and gave me a clear breakdown of what settlement options I might qualify for. It was super helpful because I went into discussions with the IRS knowing exactly what I could reasonably ask for instead of just guessing. The report they generated also helped me realize I had decent leverage for an Offer in Compromise since my financial situation wasn't great. Their document analysis saved me a lot of time figuring out what programs I qualified for and what documentation I needed to gather for my case.
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Lara Woods
•12 How does this service work exactly? Do they just give you advice or do they actually communicate with the IRS for you?
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Lara Woods
•19 I'm skeptical... if you owed that much, how could an AI tool possibly help more than an actual tax attorney who knows the ins and outs of negotiating with the IRS?
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Lara Woods
•8 They don't communicate with the IRS for you - they analyze your specific tax situation and documentation to give you clear guidance on what programs you'll likely qualify for and how to approach negotiations. It's more of a preparation tool that helps you understand your options before you decide to hire representation or negotiate yourself. I found it invaluable because it helped me determine if I should pursue an Offer in Compromise or an installment agreement based on my actual numbers, not just general advice. The report showed me exactly what the IRS would see when they reviewed my financial situation, which gave me confidence in what I was asking for.
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Lara Woods
19 I have to admit I was completely wrong about taxr.ai. After my skeptical comment, I decided to try it myself since I also had some tax issues (not nearly as serious as yours). The document analysis was surprisingly thorough - it caught several things I missed that would have caused problems in my negotiations with the IRS. The assessment they provided helped me realize I qualified for a partial payment installment agreement that my own research hadn't turned up. They don't replace a tax pro for complex negotiations, but they definitely give you a clear picture of your options before you spend big money on representation. I ended up using their report to handle my own case and got approved for exactly the payment plan they suggested I'd qualify for.
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Lara Woods
3 If you're trying to reach the IRS to discuss your options, good luck! I spent WEEKS trying to get through their phone system with no success. After almost giving up, I found Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) which basically holds your place in the IRS phone queue and calls you when an agent picks up. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I was honestly shocked when I got a call back with an actual IRS agent on the line after trying unsuccessfully for so long. I had a $60k tax bill (not as much as you), but the agent was actually really helpful once I got through. They walked me through my payment options and I was able to set up an installment agreement during that first call. For a debt as large as yours, you'll probably need professional help eventually, but having a direct conversation with the IRS first can give you a better understanding of your situation.
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Lara Woods
•9 Wait, how does this actually work? The IRS will allow someone else to wait on hold for you? That seems weird...
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Lara Woods
•19 This sounds like complete BS. There's no way this actually works. The IRS phone system is designed to be a nightmare on purpose.
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Lara Woods
•3 It's not someone else waiting on hold - it's an automated system that navigates the IRS phone tree and holds your place in line. When an agent answers, the system immediately connects you to the call. The IRS doesn't even know the difference - it just thinks you've been on hold the whole time. No, the IRS isn't intentionally making their phone system difficult - they're just severely understaffed for the volume of calls they receive. This service just helps you avoid wasting hours on hold. I was connected to an agent in about 45 minutes without having to actually sit there with a phone to my ear the whole time.
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Lara Woods
19 I'm completely embarrassed to admit this, but that Claimyr service actually works. After posting my skeptical comment, I was so annoyed by the whole situation that I tried it when I needed to call about an issue with my refund. Instead of wasting half my day on hold, I got a call back when a real IRS agent was on the line. The agent helped me resolve my issue in about 15 minutes. For something as serious as a $250k tax debt, being able to actually speak with the IRS collections department without the hold time nightmare would be incredibly valuable. I still think you'll need professional help with a debt that large, but having direct conversations with the IRS first will give you a much better understanding of what you're facing.
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Lara Woods
22 I used to work as a tax resolution specialist. For a $250k debt, that attorney fee isn't outrageous but it is on the high side. Here's what you should know: 1) You don't necessarily need an attorney - an Enrolled Agent or CPA with tax resolution experience can often handle these cases for significantly less money (maybe $5-8k range) 2) Be wary of anyone promising they can settle your debt for "pennies on the dollar" - those are usually scams 3) With a debt that size, you'll likely need to provide extensive financial documentation regardless of who represents you 4) The IRS generally expects you to exhaust your assets (selling investments, taking loans against property) before they'll accept a reduced settlement What's your current income and asset situation? That greatly affects what options are realistic for you.
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Lara Woods
•1 Thanks for this info! Currently I make about $95k/year (down from $250k during the years when I accrued the tax debt). I have about $40k in retirement accounts, a house with $150k equity, and a car worth maybe $15k. At this point my monthly expenses barely leave me with anything extra at the end of the month. Would they really expect me to sell my house to pay this debt?
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Lara Woods
•22 The IRS typically doesn't force people to sell their primary residence, but they may expect you to borrow against that equity through a home equity loan or line of credit to pay down the tax debt. With your current income and asset situation, you might qualify for a partial payment installment agreement where you make affordable monthly payments based on your current income, potentially without liquidating all assets. This is different from an Offer in Compromise, which would be harder to qualify for with your level of equity and income. I'd recommend getting a consultation with 2-3 different tax professionals (look for Enrolled Agents who specialize in tax resolution) to compare their approach and fees before deciding. Make sure whoever you hire has specific experience with cases involving large tax debts and installment agreements.
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Lara Woods
14 i went thru similar situation owing $120k. biggest advice: DO NOT USE ONE OF THOSE TAX RESOLUTION FIRMS YOU SEE ADVERTISED ON TV!!! total scammers took $4000 from me and did NOTHING. ended up hiring a local CPA who specializes in tax problems for $3500 flat fee. she got me on a $1200/month payment plan and the IRS agreed not to put a lien on my house. the payment amount is based on your income and expenses so be ready to provide LOTS of documentation about everything you spend money on each month.
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Lara Woods
•5 did you have to pay the full amount eventually or were they able to reduce what you owed at all??
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LordCommander
I'm dealing with a similar situation (though thankfully not quite as much - around $180k). One thing I learned from my research is that you should absolutely get multiple consultations before committing to that $13,500 fee. I found Enrolled Agents who specialize in tax resolution charging significantly less for similar services. Also, don't let the IRS collections timeline pressure you into making hasty decisions. While you don't want to ignore this, you do have time to explore your options properly. The IRS would rather work with you on a payment plan than go through the expensive process of trying to collect through liens and levies. Have you received any formal collection notices yet, or are you getting ahead of this based on what you discovered about the unreported income? That timeline can affect your negotiating position and urgency level.
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Zainab Abdulrahman
•This is really solid advice about getting multiple consultations! I'm curious - when you say Enrolled Agents were charging significantly less, what kind of fee range were you seeing? I'm trying to figure out if that $13,500 the attorney quoted me is really necessary or if I could get similar results for less money. Also, to answer your question - I haven't received any formal collection notices yet. I discovered this issue when doing my taxes for last year and realized how much I actually owe across multiple years. So I do have some time to figure this out properly rather than panic-hiring the first professional I talked to.
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Samantha Johnson
•The Enrolled Agents I consulted were typically charging between $4,000-$7,000 for cases in our debt range, compared to the $13,500+ that attorneys were quoting. The key difference is that attorneys can represent you in Tax Court if needed, but for most installment agreement and OIC cases, an experienced EA can handle everything just as effectively. Since you haven't received collection notices yet, you're in a much better position than I was! This gives you time to be strategic rather than reactive. I'd recommend getting consultations from at least 2-3 different professionals - maybe one attorney and a couple of EAs - so you can compare their approaches and see who gives you the most confidence in their strategy. One thing to ask each professional: what's their success rate with cases similar to yours, and can they provide references from recent clients? The good ones won't hesitate to share this information.
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StarStrider
I can't emphasize enough how important it is to act quickly but thoughtfully with a debt this size. $250k puts you in serious collection territory once the IRS starts the enforcement process. Here's my practical advice from handling similar cases: 1) That $13,500 attorney fee isn't unreasonable for the complexity, but shop around. Get at least 3 consultations - mix of attorneys and Enrolled Agents. 2) Start gathering ALL your financial documentation now: bank statements, pay stubs, mortgage/rent, utilities, insurance, car payments, etc. The IRS will want to see everything to determine your ability to pay. 3) Consider your long-term strategy. With your current $95k income and $250k debt, you're looking at either a long-term installment agreement or potentially an Offer in Compromise if your financial situation is truly dire. 4) Don't panic, but don't delay either. The interest and penalties keep adding up daily. Even if you end up on a payment plan, stopping the penalty clock sooner rather than later saves you money. The IRS is actually pretty reasonable to work with when you approach them proactively rather than waiting for them to come after you. You're doing the right thing by addressing this head-on.
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