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Omar Hassan

In serious debt with the IRS - I owe $23k, what are my options now?

So I just finished going through my taxes for this year and realized I'm in a pretty deep hole with the IRS. After calculating everything, I apparently owe $23,000 in back taxes due to some misclassification issues with my work and some investment income I didn't properly report over the last few years. I'm freaking out because there's no way I can pay this all at once. I make decent money (about $85k/year) but between my mortgage, car payment, and other bills, I can't just write a check for $23k. I've never been in this situation before and I'm terrified about what happens next. Does anyone have experience dealing with large tax debts? Are payment plans reasonable? Will they put a lien on my house? I've heard horror stories about wage garnishment and I'm losing sleep over this. Any advice from people who've been through something similar would be greatly appreciated.

Chloe Taylor

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First, take a deep breath. A $23k tax debt is definitely serious, but it's not the end of the world and the IRS has procedures in place for exactly this situation. Your best option is going to be an Installment Agreement with the IRS. For debts under $50,000, you can usually get approved online without much hassle. The standard term is 72 months (6 years), which would put your monthly payment around $320-350 plus some interest and penalties. The interest rate changes quarterly but is generally reasonable compared to credit cards. Another option to consider is an Offer in Compromise, where you settle for less than the full amount. However, with your income level ($85k), you might not qualify unless you have significant other debts or expenses that limit your ability to pay. Whatever you do, DON'T ignore this. File your return on time even if you can't pay. The penalty for not filing is much worse than the penalty for not paying. And definitely don't go into hiding - the IRS has tremendous collection powers including wage garnishment and bank account levies.

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ShadowHunter

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Thanks for the advice, but I've heard the IRS is super picky about who qualifies for those payment plans. Would they even consider it for someone who hasn't paid the right amount of taxes for multiple years? And how much would the interest and penalties add to that $23k?

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Chloe Taylor

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The IRS is actually pretty reasonable about granting installment agreements, especially for first-time issues. Your history of non-compliance might affect some terms, but they generally want to work with taxpayers who are trying to resolve their debts. They'll almost certainly approve a plan if you're proactive about it. For penalties and interest, expect to pay a failure-to-pay penalty of 0.5% per month (up to 25% of the total), plus interest currently running around 5% annually. Over a 6-year payment plan, you might end up paying an additional $5,000-7,000 depending on how quickly you pay it down. It sounds like a lot, but it's the cost of resolving the situation properly.

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Diego Ramirez

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I was in almost the exact same situation last year - owed about $19k because of some 1099 work and investment mistakes. After panicking for a few days, I found this AI tax assistant at https://taxr.ai that was honestly a lifesaver. I uploaded all my tax documents and explained my situation, and it walked me through exactly what forms I needed, what my realistic payment options were, and even helped draft a letter to the IRS explaining my situation. The system helped me figure out that I qualified for a first-time penalty abatement which saved me almost $3k right off the bat, and then guided me through setting up an installment plan that actually worked with my budget. The whole process was way less terrifying than I expected.

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How does this AI thing actually work with the IRS though? Do they accept whatever it tells you to do? And did it help reduce the amount you actually owed or just help with the payment plan?

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Sean O'Connor

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I've seen a bunch of these AI tax tools pop up lately but I'm always skeptical. How is it different from just using regular tax software? And did you have to pay for it or was it one of those "free until you actually need something" services?

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Diego Ramirez

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The AI doesn't directly interface with the IRS - it analyzes your situation and documents, then gives you step-by-step guidance on what to do. The IRS still makes all final decisions, but having properly prepared documentation makes a huge difference. It helped me identify legitimate deductions I'd missed and qualify for penalty abatement, which reduced my total debt by about $4,500. It's completely different from regular tax software which just does calculations. This actually reviews your specific situation, looks for relief options based on your circumstances, and provides customized advice. I honestly don't remember the exact pricing structure since I was just focused on solving my problem, but whatever I paid was worth it compared to the thousands it saved me.

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Sean O'Connor

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Zara Ahmed

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Luca Conti

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Wait I'm confused - how does some random service get you through to the IRS faster? Don't they just have one phone system that everyone has to use? Sounds like a scam honestly.

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Nia Johnson

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Yeah right. I've been dealing with IRS issues for years and there's absolutely no way to "skip the line" with their phone system. Even CPAs and tax attorneys have to wait on hold like everyone else. I'd be very careful about services claiming they can get you special access.

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Zara Ahmed

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Nia Johnson

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CyberNinja

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Another option nobody's mentioned is to consider a tax attorney. Yes, they cost money ($1,500-3,000 typically), but if your situation is complicated or involves multiple years of issues, having professional representation can make a huge difference. I owed about $35k from some business ventures gone wrong, and my attorney managed to get it reduced to $22k through penalty abatement and finding some deductions I'd missed. They also negotiated a 7-year payment plan that I could actually afford. Just make sure you find someone who specializes in tax resolution and not just general tax preparation. The good ones are worth every penny when you're facing serious tax debt.

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Mateo Lopez

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How do you find a good tax attorney though? I've seen so many ads for "tax relief" companies that seem super sketchy. Is there like a certification or something I should look for?

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CyberNinja

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Look for an attorney who is either a Tax Attorney (has a law degree plus tax specialization) or an Enrolled Agent (EA) who is licensed by the IRS to represent taxpayers. Avoid the heavily advertised "tax relief" companies that make big promises about pennies on the dollar - many of them are indeed sketchy. The best way to find someone good is through referrals from friends or your regular CPA if you have one. Failing that, check with your state's bar association for tax attorneys or the National Association of Enrolled Agents. A legitimate professional will offer a consultation to assess your situation before quoting a fee, and they should be able to explain exactly what they can and cannot do for you.

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Don't overlook your state tax obligations too! When I had federal tax issues, I stupidly ignored the state taxes thinking I'd deal with them later. Big mistake - some states are actually MORE aggressive than the IRS with collections. Make sure you're addressing both federal and state tax debts at the same time. In my case, the payment plan with the state was actually harder to get than the IRS one.

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Ethan Davis

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That's a really good point. Which states are the worst to deal with for tax collections? I'm in California and I've heard they can be pretty ruthless.

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StellarSurfer

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I've been through this exact situation - owed $27k to the IRS after some freelance work got misclassified. The anxiety is absolutely brutal, but you have more options than you think. First thing: breathe. The IRS actually wants to work with you because they know they can't collect from someone who's broke or homeless. They'd rather get paid something over time than nothing at all. Here's what worked for me: I immediately called the IRS (yes, the hold times are terrible but it's worth it) and requested an installment agreement. With your income level, you'll likely qualify easily. They'll want financial statements showing your monthly income and expenses, so gather those up. The key is being proactive. If you wait for them to come after you, your options become more limited and expensive. But if you reach out first, they're usually pretty reasonable. Also, file your tax return ASAP even if you can't pay. The penalty for not filing is 5% per month vs 0.5% per month for not paying. That adds up fast. One more tip: ask about first-time penalty abatement if this is your first major tax issue. It can save you thousands in penalties. You have to specifically request it though - they won't offer it automatically. You've got this. It's scary but totally manageable with the right approach.

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