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Beatrice Marshall

Owe $78,000 in back taxes from 2021, haven't filed yet and can't afford to pay. What consequences am I facing? Best options?

I'm in a really tight spot and freaking out. I had this consulting business that did surprisingly well in 2021, but I was stupid and didn't put aside money for taxes. I owe somewhere around $78,000 for that tax year and I still haven't filed the return. I kept thinking I'd find a way to come up with the money, but it's been years and I'm nowhere close to having that kind of cash. I'm scared about what's going to happen - jail time? Garnished wages? Complete financial ruin? I just got a decent job after struggling for a while but it doesn't pay enough to cover this kind of debt quickly. What's the IRS going to do to me at this point? And what options do I even have? Payment plans? Offer in compromise? I heard about something called "currently not collectible" status? I don't know where to start and I'm losing sleep over this. Any advice would be so appreciated.

Melina Haruko

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First, take a deep breath. The IRS generally doesn't put people in jail simply for owing taxes - that's reserved for tax fraud cases where someone deliberately evaded taxes through illegal means. Your situation is serious, but manageable. The most important step is to file your 2021 return immediately, even if you can't pay. Not filing incurs much higher penalties than not paying. The failure-to-file penalty is 5% of unpaid taxes per month (capped at 25%), while the failure-to-pay penalty is only 0.5% per month. You're already maxed out on failure-to-file penalties, but they continue accumulating interest. Once filed, you have several options. An installment agreement would allow you to make monthly payments - for your amount, it would require a formal application. With your new job, this might be viable. An Offer in Compromise could potentially settle for less than you owe if you can prove financial hardship. Currently Not Collectible status temporarily pauses collection if you can demonstrate payment would create significant financial hardship. The key is communication - the IRS has more options for people who engage with them versus those who avoid them.

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How does someone even get an Offer in Compromise approved? I've heard the IRS rarely accepts those. And if they do put you on a payment plan, what's the maximum time they'll give you to pay it off? $78k would take forever to pay on a normal salary.

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Melina Haruko

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The IRS does have specific criteria for Offer in Compromise approvals, but they're more accessible than many believe. They essentially look at your ability to pay, income, expenses, and asset equity. If you can demonstrate that you cannot reasonably pay the full amount within the collection period, you have a chance. Success rates have improved in recent years, with about 30-40% of properly prepared OICs being accepted. For installment agreements on large amounts like $78,000, the IRS generally allows up to 72 months (6 years). However, in hardship cases, they can sometimes extend this further through a partial payment installment agreement based on your ability to pay. The key is providing complete financial information and negotiating based on your actual ability to pay, not just accepting their first proposed payment amount.

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Jake Sinclair

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Don't forget to look into penalty abatement options! If this was your first time missing filing deadlines or if you had reasonable cause (major illness, natural disaster, etc.), you might qualify to have some penalties removed. This won't help with the base tax amount or interest, but penalties can be a significant portion of what you owe after all this time. You'll need to request First-Time Penalty Abatement or file for Reasonable Cause abatement. Either way, getting those penalties reduced could potentially save you thousands. Just make sure you file that 2021 return ASAP before requesting any abatement.

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I had no idea about penalty abatement! Would that work even though it's been so long since the original due date? And do I need to have the return filed first before I can request this?

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Jake Sinclair

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Yes, you can still request penalty abatement even after a significant delay. The IRS doesn't have a strict deadline for requesting abatement, though they're generally more receptive when you're actively trying to resolve the situation by filing your return and making payment arrangements. You absolutely need to file the return first before requesting any kind of penalty abatement. The IRS won't consider penalty relief on unfiled returns. Once your return is filed, you can request First-Time Penalty Abatement if you had a clean compliance history for the three years prior to 2021. If you had legitimate reasons for not filing (serious illness, natural disaster, etc.), you could alternatively request Reasonable Cause abatement with supporting documentation.

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Just so you know how the numbers might work out - on $78k of tax debt from 2021, you're looking at: - 25% failure-to-file penalty: about $19,500 - Failure-to-pay penalty: roughly 0.5% per month, so about 15% by now: $11,700 - Interest on the unpaid amount AND on the penalties: probably another $15-20k So your $78k tax bill could now be around $125k total. Not trying to scare you more, just giving you a realistic picture. This is why everyone's saying to file ASAP and get on a payment plan or look into an Offer in Compromise!

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Honorah King

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Those calculations seem high. Doesn't the failure-to-pay penalty cap at 25% just like the failure-to-file penalty? I thought the combined penalties couldn't exceed 47.5% of the original tax.

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