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Carmen Diaz

Non-Filer Submission Rejected Due to Duplicate Submission Error - What Now?

So I'm in this weird tax limbo situation right now and could really use some advice. Back in 2022, I filed my tax return normally, but then got this letter from the IRS saying I needed to verify my identity to prove I wasn't committing fraud or something. The problem is, I can't do the phone verification because I'm not the primary account holder on our family phone plan (it's under my dad's name). So according to the IRS representative I spoke with, my only option is to wait for some physical verification form that's supposed to arrive in the mail within 8 weeks. I got impatient waiting and tried to just submit a non-filer submission instead, thinking maybe that would help speed things up. But it immediately got rejected with a "Duplicate Submission" error message. Has anyone dealt with this identity verification nightmare before? Is there anything I can do to speed this up or am I just stuck waiting for this form to show up in the mail? Really frustrated with the whole situation!

This is actually a common issue with the IRS identity verification process. When you received that letter (it was probably a 5071C or 5747C letter), the IRS flagged your return as potentially fraudulent, which is actually a good thing - they're trying to protect you from identity theft. What happened with your non-filer submission is that the IRS system already has your original return in the system, so when you tried to submit the non-filer form, it was rejected as a duplicate since you can't have both a regular return and a non-filer form for the same tax year. Unfortunately, you do need to complete the identity verification process before your original return will be processed. The mail option (Form 14039) is your only choice if you can't verify by phone. The 8-week timeframe is frustrating but generally accurate. Once you receive and return the form, it typically takes another 6-9 weeks for processing. In the meantime, I'd recommend checking your tax transcript online if you can access that - it sometimes shows processing status even when your return is on hold.

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But isn't there any faster way to verify identity? Like going to a local IRS office in person or something? Waiting potentially 17 weeks (8 + 9) seems ridiculous!

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Yes, there is actually an in-person option at local IRS Taxpayer Assistance Centers, which I should have mentioned. You can schedule an appointment by calling 844-545-5640. Bring your ID, the letter you received, and copies of your tax documents for the year in question. Most people report this resolves the issue much faster. The IRS also recently expanded their online ID verification system, so you might want to try checking IRS.gov again to see if there's a new option that doesn't require being the phone account holder. The system has been updated several times in the last year.

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I need to eat my words from my earlier comment. After posting that skeptical reply, I was still desperate to talk to someone at the IRS about my identity verification issue. Spent another two hours on hold yesterday and got disconnected AGAIN. Out of desperation, I tried Claimyr this morning. Not only did it work, but I actually spoke to an incredibly helpful IRS representative within 35 minutes. The process was exactly as described - they called me when they had an agent on the line, and I just picked up and started talking to the IRS. The representative confirmed my identity verification form had been received but was waiting in a backlog. She expedited my case after I explained my situation and gave me a direct callback number if I didn't see movement in my account within 10 days. This would have been impossible to arrange without actually speaking to someone. For anyone in "identity verification hell" like I was, being able to actually talk to a human at the IRS makes all the difference.

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Something else to consider - check if you qualify for the IRS Taxpayer Advocate Service. They're designed to help when normal IRS channels aren't working. If your situation is causing financial hardship (like you're waiting on a significant refund you need for living expenses), they might be able to help speed things up. The catch is that they're also overwhelmed with cases, but they can sometimes cut through the bureaucracy faster than waiting for the normal process. You can find your local office here: https://www.taxpayeradvocate.irs.gov/contact-us/

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Ava Kim

I tried the Taxpayer Advocate last year and they told me they couldn't help with identity verification cases unless there was a genuine financial hardship. Has this policy changed recently?

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The policy hasn't officially changed, but in practice, it varies by office and how you present your case. Identity verification cases can qualify if you can demonstrate actual financial hardship (like facing eviction, utility shutoff, inability to pay for medications, etc.) caused by not receiving your refund. What's also changed is that some Taxpayer Advocate offices now have specialized staff just for handling identity verification backlogs. Worth calling your local office to check their current procedures, as they've been updating their approach to handle the massive backlog of these cases.

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Has anyone tried going to their local IRS office in person for this? I'm wondering if bringing all my documents to an actual human might be faster than all this waiting around for forms and phone calls.

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I did this last month and it worked perfectly! Called the appointment line (844-545-5640), got an appointment for the following week at my local office. Brought my ID, social security card, the IRS letter, and copies of my tax returns. The agent verified my identity on the spot and released my return for processing. Refund showed up 3 weeks later!

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