No federal withholding on disability insurance in 2024 - penalty concerns?
I was on third-party disability insurance for all of 2024 due to a serious health condition. When I first started receiving the payments, I realized there was no federal withholding being taken out. I contacted the insurance company about adding withholding, but they told me they couldn't change it and said I'd need to deal with it when filing taxes. At the time, I was way too sick to figure out estimated tax payments or anything like that. I just needed to focus on my health. Now I'm worried about how much I'm going to owe when I file and if there will be penalties since nothing was withheld all year. Has anyone dealt with this before? What kind of penalties am I looking at for owing a substantial amount? I've heard something about a "safe harbor rule" that might help avoid penalties, but I'm not sure how it works or if it would apply to my situation. Any advice would be really appreciated!
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Mohamed Anderson
First, don't panic! This is more common than you might think with disability payments. The penalties for underpayment are typically around 3-4% of the unpaid tax amount, calculated on a quarterly basis. It's not massive, but can add up depending on how much tax you owe. The safe harbor rule might help you! There are a few ways to qualify: - If you paid at least 90% of the tax for 2024 during 2024 (which doesn't sound like your case) - If you paid 100% of your previous year's tax liability (110% if your AGI was over $150,000) - If you owe less than $1,000 in tax after subtracting withholdings and credits There's also a potential waiver of penalties for "reasonable cause." Given your medical situation, you might qualify if you can document that your illness prevented you from managing your tax obligations. I'd recommend gathering documentation of your medical condition that shows why you were unable to handle tax matters during 2024. That could help with a penalty waiver request.
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Ellie Perry
•Would the IRS actually accept medical issues as a valid reason for not paying estimated taxes? I always thought they were pretty strict about this kind of thing.
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Mohamed Anderson
•Yes, the IRS does recognize serious medical conditions as potential grounds for penalty relief under their reasonable cause provisions. They evaluate each case individually, looking at all facts and circumstances. Documentation is crucial - medical records showing the severity and duration of the condition, especially anything that demonstrates your inability to manage financial matters during that period. The key is being able to show that you exercised ordinary business care and prudence but still couldn't comply due to circumstances beyond your control. It's not automatic, but they do have procedures specifically for medical-related hardships.
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Landon Morgan
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Teresa Boyd
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Lourdes Fox
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Landon Morgan
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Lourdes Fox
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Aileen Rodriguez
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Zane Gray
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Bruno Simmons
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Zane Gray
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Maggie Martinez
I think everyone is overlooking something important here - depending on what type of disability insurance this was, it might not even be fully taxable! If you paid the premiums with after-tax dollars, then the benefits aren't taxable. If your employer paid the premiums or if you paid with pre-tax dollars, then the benefits are taxable. You should check your policy details and previous paystubs (if it was through work) to determine this. This could make a HUGE difference in what you actually owe.
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Selena Bautista
•Thanks for pointing this out! I'm not sure how my policy works tax-wise. It was through my employer but I think I did pay some portion of the premiums each month before I went on disability. How would I figure out if I paid with pre-tax or after-tax dollars?
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Maggie Martinez
•You can determine this by looking at your last paystub before going on disability. Look for the disability insurance premium deduction and check if it's listed under pre-tax or post-tax deductions. If you don't have your paystubs, contact your HR department or benefits administrator - they can tell you exactly how your premiums were structured. If you paid even a portion of the premiums with after-tax dollars, then a corresponding percentage of your benefits would be non-taxable. For example, if you paid 40% of the premium with after-tax money, then 40% of your benefits would be tax-free.
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Alejandro Castro
Has the insurance company sent you a 1099 form for the disability payments? That would show the taxable amount they're reporting to the IRS, which is important to know before you start worrying about penalties.
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Selena Bautista
•They sent me a 1099-R that shows the full amount in Box 1, and it looks like it has a code in Box 7. Not sure what that means though.
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Monique Byrd
•The code in Box 7 of your 1099-R is super important! It tells you how the distribution is being characterized. For disability payments: Code 3 typically means disability payments before minimum retirement age - these are usually taxed as regular income. Code 7 is for normal distributions, sometimes used for disability after reaching minimum retirement age. If there's a value in Box 5 (Employee Contributions/Designated Roth Contributions), that's the portion that ISN'T taxable because you already paid tax on it!
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