My employer keeps under-withholding taxes despite correct W-4 - penalties help?
I'm so frustrated! My employer has been consistently under-withholding federal taxes despite my W-4 being filled out correctly (single, 0 allowances, no dependents). This is the third year in a row and they never fix it when I bring it up. Just got my W-2 for 2024 and I'm looking at owing a significant amount again. I don't have any side gigs or other income sources - just my regular paycheck that should have proper withholding. I know I'll need to pay the outstanding tax balance (about $2,800 this time), but is there anything I can do about the penalties I'll get hit with? Is there any mechanism to hold my employer accountable since they're basically causing me to get penalized each year by ignoring proper withholding? Has anyone dealt with something similar? It feels unfair that I'm doing everything right but still getting penalized because my employer won't follow proper withholding guidelines.
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Yuki Kobayashi
You can request a penalty abatement from the IRS using their First Time Penalty Abatement policy. Even though this has happened multiple years in a row, if you haven't had penalties in the three prior years before the first occurrence, you might qualify. For the ongoing issue with your employer, I'd recommend submitting a new W-4 and specifically request additional withholding. On the current W-4 form, there's line 4(c) where you can specify an additional amount to be withheld from each paycheck. Calculate how much you're short each pay period and add that amount. If your employer continues to ignore proper withholding after you've explicitly requested additional amounts, you can file Form 8919 (Uncollected Social Security and Medicare Tax on Wages) with your tax return if applicable, and you might want to report them to the IRS using Form 3949-A.
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AstroAce
•Thanks for the detailed info! Would the First Time Penalty Abatement still work if I've already used it once before (about 4 years ago for a different issue)? And for the additional withholding on line 4(c), do you have any tips on calculating exactly how much to add? My withholding seems to be about 15% below what it should be.
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Yuki Kobayashi
•The First Time Penalty Abatement typically only works once every three years, so if you used it 4 years ago, you might be eligible again. However, the IRS looks at your compliance history for the three years before the tax year you're requesting abatement for. For calculating the additional withholding amount, take your total underpayment from last year (around $2,800) and divide by the number of pay periods in a year. For example, if you're paid biweekly (26 pay periods), you'd add about $108 extra per paycheck on line 4(c). You might want to add slightly more as a buffer, maybe $120-130 per check. You can also use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator on their website to get a more precise figure based on your specific situation.
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Carmen Vega
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Andre Rousseau
•That sounds helpful, but does it really work for someone who has a simple tax situation? I'm in a similar spot with just one W-2 job and my employer is withholding way too little despite my W-4 being correct. Did the tool give you specific numbers to put on your new W-4?
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Zoe Stavros
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Carmen Vega
•Yes, it absolutely works for simple tax situations! In fact, it's especially good at identifying problems in straightforward cases where the withholding should be straightforward. It gave me an exact dollar amount to put on line 4(c) of my W-4 based on my specific salary and withholding history. The tool has a verification system that shows you exactly how they're calculating everything, with references to the specific IRS guidelines they're using. I actually compared their recommendations with what the IRS withholding calculator suggested, and they were within a few dollars of each other. The difference was that taxr.ai explained everything in plain English and provided documentation I could show my employer.
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Andre Rousseau
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Mei Wong
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Liam Sullivan
Have you considered filing quarterly estimated tax payments to cover the difference? That's what I did when I had a similar situation. It's not ideal since you're basically doing extra work to cover your employer's mistake, but it does prevent you from owing penalties. You just calculate approximately how much extra you need to pay each quarter and submit it using Form 1040-ES. The IRS doesn't care where the money comes from as long as they get it in time (either through withholding or estimated payments).
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AstroAce
•I hadn't thought about estimated payments! That might be a good backup plan if I can't get my employer to fix the withholding. Do you know if there's a minimum amount required for estimated payments? And what are the deadlines for those?
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Liam Sullivan
•There's no minimum amount for estimated tax payments - you can pay whatever you need to make up the difference. The quarterly due dates are usually April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15 of the following year (though they can shift slightly if those dates fall on weekends or holidays). Just be sure you're paying enough to meet one of the "safe harbor" provisions to avoid penalties: either 90% of this year's tax or 100% of last year's tax (110% if your AGI was over $150,000). I used the IRS Direct Pay system online which makes it pretty easy to submit payments, and you get immediate confirmation.
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Amara Okafor
Can't you just submit a new W-4 with an extra withholding amount? That's what my aunt did when this happened to her. She just calculated how much she was short by the previous year, divided by her pay periods, and put that on line 4(c).
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Giovanni Colombo
•That works in theory, but some employers (like mine) seem to ignore even that. I explicitly put an additional $200 per paycheck on line 4(c) and they still somehow messed it up. It's like they're deliberately trying to cause tax problems!
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