No withholding on my 2024 disability insurance payments - worried about tax penalties
I was receiving third party disability insurance for all of 2024 while dealing with some pretty serious health issues. When I first started getting payments, I realized they weren't withholding any federal taxes (literally zero withholding). I contacted the insurance company about changing my withholding, but they told me they couldn't adjust it and that I'd need to deal with it when filing my taxes. Honestly, I was too sick at the time to figure out what to do about it, and now I'm worried I'm going to owe a ton of money. Does anyone know what kind of penalties I might be facing for owing a large amount? Is there any way to get some kind of waiver to avoid penalties? I vaguely remember reading something about a "safe harbor rule" but I'm not sure if that applies to my situation. Any advice would be super appreciated. I'm starting to stress about this as tax season approaches.
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TillyCombatwarrior
The safe harbor rule might actually help you here! There are a few ways you can avoid underpayment penalties: 1) If you owe less than $1,000 in tax after subtracting withholdings and credits, you won't face a penalty. 2) If you paid at least 90% of the tax you owe for 2024 through withholding or estimated payments, you're good. 3) If you paid at least 100% of the tax shown on your 2023 return (or 110% if your AGI was over $150,000), you're also protected under the safe harbor rule. Most disability benefits are taxable income if your employer paid the premiums, but if you paid the premiums with after-tax dollars, the benefits might not be taxable at all. Did you pay for this disability insurance yourself, or was it through an employer?
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Dyllan Nantx
•Thanks for the info! My employer paid for the disability insurance premiums, so I'm pretty sure the benefits are fully taxable. I definitely didn't make any estimated payments throughout the year, and I'm guessing I'll owe quite a bit more than $1,000. For the third option about paying 100% of last year's tax - I actually owed very little last year because I only worked for about 2 months before going on disability. So my 2023 tax bill was tiny compared to what I'll probably owe for 2024. Would that still help me?
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TillyCombatwarrior
•Yes, that third option could definitely help you! The safe harbor rule doesn't care about how much you might owe this year - it only compares what you've paid to what you owed last year. If your 2023 tax liability was small and you've paid at least 100% of that amount for 2024 (through any withholding you might have had earlier in the year), you should qualify for the safe harbor protection and avoid penalties. It's important to understand you'll still owe the full tax amount - the safe harbor just helps you avoid the additional underpayment penalties. If you're concerned about paying the full amount due, the IRS offers payment plans that are fairly easy to set up.
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Anna Xian
I went through something similar last year with disability payments and taxes. I uploaded all my documents to https://taxr.ai and they analyzed my situation completely. They looked at my disability payments and prior year taxes and confirmed I qualified for the safe harbor rule since I'd paid 100% of my previous year's tax liability. The tool also calculated exactly what I would owe and explained that while I still had to pay the full tax amount, I wouldn't face any penalties. Saved me hours of research and worry! Might be worth checking out for your specific situation since disability tax rules can get complicated.
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Jungleboo Soletrain
•Does this taxr.ai thing actually work with disability insurance situations specifically? I'm on short-term disability right now and my company warned me there's no withholding, but I have no idea what that will mean for my taxes next year.
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Rajan Walker
•I'm skeptical of these online tools. How does it handle state taxes? I'm in California and they have their own rules about disability payments that are different from federal.
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Anna Xian
•It absolutely works with disability insurance! It analyzes your specific situation including the type of disability payments you're receiving, who paid the premiums, and how that affects taxability. It even creates custom estimated tax payment recommendations if you need to make payments to avoid penalties. As for state taxes, I used it for my California taxes too. The tool distinguishes between private disability insurance, employer-provided disability, and state disability insurance (SDI) payments, which all have different tax treatments. It shows you both the federal and state tax implications and helps you understand exactly what you need to do for both.
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Rajan Walker
I was really doubtful about using online tax tools for my complicated disability payment situation, but I decided to try https://taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here. I'm actually really impressed with how detailed it was. It analyzed my state disability insurance payments (which are tax-free in California) separately from my supplemental disability insurance (which was taxable because my employer paid the premiums). The system even spotted that I had made enough withholding from my regular income earlier in the year to qualify for safe harbor protection. Saved me from freaking out about penalties and helped me understand exactly what I needed to set aside for taxes. Way more specific to my disability situation than I expected.
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Nadia Zaldivar
If you need to actually talk to someone at the IRS about your disability payment situation and possible penalty relief, good luck getting through on the phone! I spent WEEKS trying. Finally used https://claimyr.com and got a callback in under 20 minutes. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I was able to explain my disability situation to the IRS agent, and they walked me through my options including first-time penalty abatement since I had a clean tax history before this. The agent also explained how to request a waiver due to circumstances beyond my control (my illness) that prevented me from making estimated payments. Would have taken me forever to get this information without getting through to an actual person.
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Lukas Fitzgerald
•Wait, how does this actually work? They somehow get you to the front of the IRS phone queue? That seems impossible given how backed up the IRS phone lines are.
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Ev Luca
•This sounds like a scam. Why would I pay a third party when I can just call the IRS myself? And even if you do get through, the IRS reps often give conflicting information. I've gotten different answers to the same question from different agents.
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Nadia Zaldivar
•It's not about "cutting the line" - they use technology to continuously call the IRS for you and secure a spot in the callback queue. Once they get through, they transfer the call directly to you. It's basically automating the frustrating process of calling, getting disconnected, and calling again. No, it's definitely not a scam. I was skeptical too, but getting actual guidance from an IRS representative made a huge difference in my situation. The agent I spoke with documented everything in my file about my disability circumstances, which helps establish my case for penalty relief. While it's true different agents might give different interpretations, having a documented conversation in your IRS file is better than trying to figure everything out alone or relying solely on internet advice.
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Ev Luca
I have to eat my words here. After getting absolutely nowhere with the IRS for two weeks trying to get help with my disability payment tax situation, I broke down and tried the Claimyr service. Got a call back from the IRS in about 45 minutes. The agent went through my options in detail and confirmed I qualified for first-time penalty abatement since I had clean tax history. They also noted my medical hardship in my file and set up a payment plan that I could actually manage. The agent explained that my disability situation would qualify for reasonable cause penalty relief. I'm still shocked at how smooth it went after weeks of frustration. Sometimes it's worth getting actual official answers instead of guessing about tax stuff online.
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Avery Davis
Something important to consider - there's a specific IRS Form 8948 for "Reasonable Cause" waiver requests. Given your health situation, you might qualify. The IRS takes illness seriously as a reasonable cause for failing to make estimated payments, especially if you can document that your condition prevented you from managing your tax obligations. When you file, attach a detailed letter explaining your medical situation and why it prevented you from handling your tax withholding or making estimated payments. Include any relevant documentation like doctor's notes or hospital records (with personal details redacted). You might still owe the tax, but the penalties could be waived completely.
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Collins Angel
•Is Form 8948 something that can be e-filed or do you have to mail everything in? I'm in a similar situation but I really don't want to paper file if I can avoid it.
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Avery Davis
•There's actually no Form 8948 specifically for reasonable cause - I apologize for the confusion! What you need to do is write a penalty abatement letter explaining your reasonable cause (your illness) and attach any supporting documentation. If you're e-filing, you'd need to mail this letter and documentation separately after filing. Reference your SSN and tax year on all documents. While you can e-file your return, the reasonable cause request typically needs to be mailed separately. Some tax software allows you to include a brief statement with your e-filed return, but a formal request with documentation will need to be sent by mail for proper consideration.
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Marcelle Drum
One thing to consider is making an estimated tax payment NOW before filing season starts. It won't eliminate all penalties since it's late, but it will stop them from continuing to accrue. The 4th quarter estimated payment deadline for 2024 is January 15, 2025.
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Tate Jensen
•Definitely this! You can make an estimated payment online using IRS Direct Pay. It's super easy and takes like 5 minutes. Way better than owing a giant lump sum when you file.
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