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Grace Patel

No Federal Income Tax Withholding on My Michigan Paycheck - Should I Be Worried?

Hey everyone, I started a new job in Detroit about 3 months ago and just noticed something concerning on my paystubs. For some reason, there's NO federal income tax being taken out of my paychecks! I can see that Social Security, Medicare, and Michigan state income tax are all being withheld properly, but nothing for federal taxes. I'm pretty inexperienced with tax stuff (this is only my second real job) and I vaguely remember filling out a W-4 form when I started, but I honestly can't recall what I put down for allowances or if I claimed exempt or something by mistake. If this continues and no federal tax gets withheld from my paychecks throughout the year, am I going to be completely screwed when tax season comes around? Will I have to pay everything in one massive lump sum next April? I'm worried I might end up owing thousands that I haven't budgeted for. Any advice would be super appreciated! I'm not sure if I should talk to HR about this or just start setting aside money on my own.

ApolloJackson

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This is definitely something you should address right away! When no federal income tax is being withheld from your paycheck, it typically means either your W-4 was filled out claiming "exempt" from withholding, or you claimed so many allowances that the calculation resulted in zero withholding. The problem with having no federal tax withheld is that yes, you will indeed owe the full amount of your federal tax liability when you file next April. Depending on your income level, this could be thousands of dollars. Plus, if you end up owing more than $1,000 at tax time, you might also face underpayment penalties and interest. I'd recommend taking two immediate steps: First, talk to your payroll department and ask for a copy of your current W-4. See what you actually selected. Second, submit a new W-4 form (the form was redesigned in 2020, so it no longer uses allowances, but instead has a different calculation method). The IRS has a Tax Withholding Estimator tool on their website that can help you fill it out correctly based on your situation.

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If they go to HR to submit a new W-4, will that fix the issue going forward only, or can they somehow make up for the months where no federal tax was withheld? And does Michigan have any weird state rules about this that might be different from other states?

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ApolloJackson

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A new W-4 will only fix withholding going forward - unfortunately there's no mechanism to "make up" for prior months through your employer's payroll. However, you can mitigate the impact by setting your new withholding higher than standard to help catch up somewhat over the remaining months of the year. Michigan doesn't have any special rules that would affect federal withholding. The state income tax withholding is separate from federal, which is why you're seeing that correctly withheld while federal is missing. Michigan follows the federal guidelines regarding W-4 forms and withholding requirements.

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Rajiv Kumar

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I had this exact same problem last year with my first job in Grand Rapids! I went to https://taxr.ai with my paystubs because I was so confused about why some taxes were being taken out but no federal tax. The tool analyzed my paystubs and immediately identified that I had accidentally claimed exempt on my W-4 when I shouldn't have. The site explained exactly what the problem was and showed me how to calculate what I'd owe at tax time if I didn't fix it. It turns out I'd have owed like $4,800 in one lump sum! It also gave me a step-by-step guide for filling out a new W-4 correctly for my specific situation and showed me exactly what to tell HR. Super helpful for someone who doesn't understand all the tax jargon.

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How exactly does this work? I'm in a similar situation but in Lansing. Does it just tell you what's wrong or does it actually help you fix the problem with your employer?

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Liam O'Reilly

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Is this some paid service? Seems like you could just go to HR directly and they'd help you fill out a new W-4. Why use a third party?

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Rajiv Kumar

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It works by scanning your paystubs and tax documents to find discrepancies or issues that might cause problems later. It doesn't just identify the issue but explains why it matters and what could happen if you don't address it. In my case, it calculated my projected federal tax liability based on my income and showed me how much I'd owe without withholding. It's a specialized tool that goes beyond what HR typically helps with. While HR can give you a blank W-4, they often can't provide tax advice or help you determine the right withholding amount for your specific financial situation. They usually just process whatever you submit. The tool gives personalized guidance based on your actual numbers and tax situation.

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Just wanted to update - I ended up checking out https://taxr.ai after my earlier question and it was legitimately helpful. Uploaded my last few paystubs from my state job and it confirmed I had somehow marked "exempt" when I shouldn't have. The calculator showed I would've owed about $3,200 at tax time! I printed out their recommended W-4 settings, took it to our payroll person yesterday, and my next check should have the proper withholding. They also suggested I put aside about $1,600 to cover what I've missed so far this year. Way less stressful knowing what I'm dealing with instead of getting a surprise tax bill next April.

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Chloe Delgado

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If you're struggling to get hold of your HR department to fix this W-4 issue (which happened to me), I'd recommend Claimyr https://claimyr.com to get direct help from the IRS. I was in a similar situation where no federal tax was being withheld and my company's HR was completely useless - kept saying they'd fix it but nothing changed for weeks. I was getting desperate so I tried Claimyr to reach the IRS directly instead of waiting on hold forever. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. Got connected to an actual IRS agent in about 20 minutes who walked me through exactly what to do with my W-4 and explained how to calculate my estimated tax payments to avoid penalties for the missing withholding from earlier paychecks.

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Ava Harris

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Wait, this actually works? I thought it was impossible to get through to the IRS. Last time I tried calling about my withholding I was on hold for 2+ hours and then got disconnected.

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Jacob Lee

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Sounds sketchy. Why would I pay a third party to call the IRS for me? The IRS has a free withholding calculator on their website that tells you exactly how to fill out your W-4.

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Chloe Delgado

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Yes, it absolutely works! That's exactly why the service exists - because the IRS is notoriously difficult to reach. The average wait time when I called was estimated at 3+ hours, but with this service I was talking to an actual IRS agent in under 20 minutes. They handle all the waiting and then call you when they have an agent on the line. The IRS calculator is helpful for basic situations, but it doesn't address what to do if you've already had several months of missing withholding or how to avoid underpayment penalties. The agent I spoke with gave me specific guidance for my situation, including how to make estimated tax payments for the amount that wasn't withheld earlier in the year. It was the personalized advice I needed rather than a one-size-fits-all calculator.

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Jacob Lee

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I take back what I said earlier about it sounding sketchy. After struggling with this exact same issue with my summer job and getting nowhere with the free IRS calculator (it kept giving me errors), I broke down and tried Claimyr. In less than 30 minutes, I was talking to an actual IRS representative who explained exactly what I needed to do. Turns out, since I had already missed several months of federal withholding, I needed to make an estimated tax payment for the missed amounts AND fix my W-4 going forward. The agent walked me through both processes and even stayed on the line while I made the payment through the IRS website. Would have never figured this out on my own, and my employer's HR person kept giving me incorrect information about "catching up" through extra withholding.

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Just a heads up - if you had ZERO federal tax withheld so far this year, you might want to make an estimated tax payment ASAP rather than waiting until April. The IRS has rules about paying taxes throughout the year, and if you underpay by too much, they can hit you with penalties. You can make estimated tax payments directly on the IRS website using Direct Pay. Just select "estimated tax" as the payment reason. This might help reduce any potential penalties when you file next year.

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Grace Patel

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Thanks for this advice! Do you know what the threshold is for penalties? Like how much do I need to be short before they start adding penalties? And is there a deadline for making these estimated payments?

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Generally, to avoid penalties, you need to pay at least 90% of your current year's tax liability or 100% of last year's tax liability (whichever is smaller) through withholding or estimated payments. There are quarterly due dates for estimated payments - April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15 of the following year. Even though you've missed some of these deadlines already, it's still better to make a payment now than to wait until April. The penalties are calculated based on how late your payments are and how much you underpaid, so making a payment now will reduce the penalty compared to waiting. The IRS Form 2210 is used to calculate these penalties, but it gets pretty complicated, which is why it's best to just start making payments as soon as you realize there's an issue.

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Don't panic! I'm a seasonal worker in Michigan and deal with weird tax situations all the time. One quick solution that might help - ask your employer if they can withhold an ADDITIONAL set amount from each remaining paycheck this year. Divide your estimated federal tax liability by the number of paychecks you have left this year, then ask payroll to withhold that extra amount ON TOP OF correcting your W-4. This way you're "catching up" on the missed withholding through your regular paychecks rather than making separate estimated payments.

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Daniela Rossi

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Does this actually work though? I thought once you missed withholding you could only fix it through estimated payments. Won't they still get hit with penalties even if they withhold extra from remaining paychecks?

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It does work to reduce your total tax due at filing time, but you're right that it may not completely eliminate the possibility of underpayment penalties. The IRS considers when payments were made throughout the year. However, there's a "safe harbor" for many taxpayers - if your withholding and estimated payments equal 100% of last year's tax liability (or 110% for higher incomes), you generally won't face penalties regardless of timing. So if you're in your first job or had very little tax liability last year, this strategy could potentially help you qualify for that safe harbor while simplifying the process of catching up.

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Zara Malik

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Grace, you're absolutely right to be concerned about this! I went through the exact same situation when I started my first job out of college. The good news is that you caught it relatively early - only 3 months in rather than discovering it in December. Here's what I learned from my experience: First, definitely get a copy of your current W-4 from HR to see what you actually filled out. Sometimes new employees accidentally check "exempt" thinking it means they're exempt from filling out the form, when it actually means exempt from withholding. Second, once you submit a corrected W-4, consider having them withhold slightly MORE than normal for the rest of the year to help offset some of what you've missed. You can use the "extra amount" line on the W-4 for this. Third, start setting aside money NOW - roughly 22% of your gross pay should cover federal taxes for most people in typical income ranges. Even if you can't save it all, having some cushion will make tax time less stressful. The penalty situation isn't as scary as it sounds if you act quickly. Many first-time taxpayers qualify for safe harbor rules, and the penalties are based on your previous year's tax liability. Since this is only your second job, your prior year liability was probably low, which works in your favor. Don't wait on this - every paycheck without proper withholding just makes the April surprise bigger!

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Aaliyah Reed

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This is really comprehensive advice! I'm curious about the "safe harbor" rules you mentioned - how do you know if you qualify? Since this is Grace's second job, does that mean her previous year's tax liability would be from her first job? And if that was maybe just a part-time or lower-paying position, would that actually help her avoid penalties even though she's missed several months of withholding this year? Also, when you say to set aside 22% of gross pay, is that a general rule of thumb or does it vary significantly based on income level and filing status? I'm asking because I might be in a similar situation soon and want to make sure I'm budgeting correctly.

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PaulineW

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Great questions! The safe harbor rule is actually pretty straightforward - if your total withholding and estimated payments for the current year equal at least 100% of what you owed in taxes last year (or 110% if your prior year AGI was over $150,000), you generally won't face underpayment penalties regardless of when those payments were made during the year. So yes, if Grace's first job was part-time or lower-paying, her prior year tax liability could have been quite low - maybe even zero if she didn't earn much. This would actually work in her favor! If she owed $500 in federal taxes last year, she'd only need to pay $500 this year (through withholding or estimated payments) to avoid penalties, even if her actual 2024 tax liability ends up being much higher. The 22% figure is definitely a rough estimate that works for many single filers earning between $40K-$80K annually. It includes federal income tax, Social Security, and Medicare taxes combined. For someone just starting out, it might be closer to 15-20% depending on income level and whether they have dependents or other deductions. The IRS withholding calculator can give you a more precise number, but 22% is a decent starting point for budgeting purposes if you want to be conservative. @Grace Patel - definitely look up what you owed last year on your tax return if you filed one. That number could save you from penalty worries!

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Khalil Urso

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I went through this exact situation when I moved to Michigan for my first corporate job! The stress of realizing no federal taxes were being withheld is real, but you're handling it the right way by addressing it now rather than waiting. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet to track everything. I calculated my estimated annual income, used the IRS tax tables to figure out roughly what I'd owe, then subtracted what had already been withheld (which was zero in my case). This gave me a concrete number to work with rather than just worrying about some unknown amount. For the immediate fix, definitely talk to HR about your W-4, but also consider opening a separate savings account specifically for taxes. Set up an automatic transfer for whatever percentage you calculate you need to save. This way you're not tempted to spend that money, and you'll have it ready whether you need to make estimated payments or just want the peace of mind. Michigan's cost of living varies a lot depending where you are in the state, but Detroit has decent financial resources if you need help. The Michigan Department of Treasury also has some helpful guidance on their website about coordinating state and federal withholding if you want to double-check that your state withholding looks correct too. You caught this early enough in the year that you have options - that's the important thing!

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Olivia Harris

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This is such practical advice! The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - having concrete numbers instead of just anxiety makes everything more manageable. I'm actually in a similar boat (just started working in Ann Arbor) and was wondering about the separate savings account approach. Do you recommend calculating based on your current pay rate for the full year, or should you factor in potential raises/bonuses that might bump you into a higher tax bracket? I'm worried about under-saving if my income increases later this year. Also, @Grace Patel - since you mentioned you re'in Detroit, you might want to check if there are any city income taxes on top of the federal and state. Some Michigan cities have local income taxes that could add to your withholding complexity.

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Emma Bianchi

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This happened to me too when I started my job in Kalamazoo! The anxiety is totally understandable, but you're being smart by catching it now instead of next April. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - if you're really worried about the lump sum payment, you can also make estimated tax payments online through EFTPS (Electronic Federal Tax Payment System) instead of waiting to fix everything through payroll. It's the official IRS payment system and you can set up recurring payments if that helps with budgeting. Also, since you mentioned this is only your second real job, there's a good chance your previous year's tax liability was pretty low. If you can find last year's tax return (or if you didn't need to file because you didn't earn enough), that could actually work in your favor for avoiding underpayment penalties. The key thing is don't let this drag on - every week you wait just makes the eventual catch-up amount bigger. But honestly, dealing with it in July gives you way more options than people who discover this problem in December!

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Amara Okafor

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Thanks for mentioning EFTPS! I hadn't heard of that system before. For someone like me who's still learning about all this tax stuff, is EFTPS complicated to set up? And do you know if there's a minimum payment amount or any fees involved? Also, you make a great point about timing - I keep seeing people say "at least you caught it early" but I wasn't really sure what the difference was between fixing it now versus later in the year. It sounds like the main benefit is just having more paychecks left to spread out the catch-up withholding, right? Or are there other advantages to addressing it sooner rather than later? @Grace Patel - definitely look into whether Detroit has city taxes! I think some Michigan cities do charge local income tax on top of everything else.

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