New Green Card Holder Concerned About Tax Filing Requirements with Foreign Social Security Benefits
Title: New Green Card Holder Concerned About Tax Filing Requirements with Foreign Social Security Benefits 1 I need some help navigating tax requirements for my mother who just received her green card about 3 weeks ago. She's 68 years old and currently lives in Southeast Asia. She's retired and her only income is a government pension/social security from her home country, which doesn't have a tax treaty with the US. She's pretty stressed about her US tax obligations and I'm finding the information online really confusing to understand. Some specific questions: - Will she need to pay US taxes on her foreign pension/social security benefits? - Does she need to report or pay taxes on her savings accounts back home? - What about deductions? She financially supports two family members in her home country and has regular expenses there (utilities, medical costs, etc.) - She has zero income or employment in the US right now Any guidance on how she should approach her first tax filing as a green card holder would be super helpful! Thanks in advance.
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Christian Bierman
12 Your mother now has permanent resident status, which means she's considered a US tax resident and needs to file US taxes on her worldwide income. Here's what she needs to know: For her foreign pension/social security: Yes, she'll need to report this income on her US tax return. However, depending on her total income amount, she might not owe any US taxes on it. Social Security benefits are only partially taxable (up to 85% max) if her income exceeds certain thresholds. For foreign bank accounts: She'll need to report these if the combined value exceeds $10,000 at any point during the year using the FBAR (FinCEN Form 114). This is just reporting - not necessarily taxation. Interest earned on those accounts is taxable income though. Regarding deductions: Unfortunately, dependents must generally be US citizens, residents, or nationals to qualify. The expenses in her home country likely won't qualify for deductions on her US return. Since her income is currently low, she might fall below US filing thresholds, but as a green card holder, filing is still recommended to establish her tax history.
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Christian Bierman
•7 Thanks for the detailed response. Does she need to report the foreign accounts even if she barely has any money in them? Like what if she has multiple accounts but combined they're less than $5,000? Also, does she need to use a special form to report her foreign pension or just include it as regular income?
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Christian Bierman
•12 If her combined foreign account balances never exceed $10,000 at any point during the year, she doesn't need to file an FBAR. However, she should still report any interest earned on those accounts as income on her tax return, regardless of the amount. For her foreign pension, she would typically report it on Form 1040 as "Other Income" and attach a statement explaining the source. If it's equivalent to social security, she might report it on the line for Social Security benefits. For more complex situations involving foreign pensions, Form 1116 (Foreign Tax Credit) might help offset any foreign taxes already paid on that income.
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Christian Bierman
5 I was in a super similar situation with my uncle last year - completely overwhelmed by the foreign income reporting requirements after he got his green card. What helped us tremendously was using https://taxr.ai to analyze his foreign pension statements and bank documents. The tool basically translated all his financial documents from his home country and helped identify exactly what needed to be reported on his US taxes. It was especially helpful for figuring out the FBAR requirements for his foreign accounts and determining whether his pension was equivalent to social security or regular income under US tax rules. The best part was that it gave him clear guidance on exactly which IRS forms he needed based on his specific situation - saved us from paying for an expensive international tax specialist.
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Christian Bierman
•19 How exactly does that service work? Does it just translate documents or does it actually tell you which specific tax forms you need to file? My mom is coming on a green card next month and has income from rental properties overseas, so I'm trying to figure out if this would help her situation.
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Christian Bierman
•23 I'm a bit skeptical about trusting any automated service with international tax matters. These situations are complex and usually require a professional who understands both countries' tax systems. Did it actually correctly identify everything? International tax compliance isn't something to mess around with given the potential penalties.
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Christian Bierman
•5 It does both - you upload your foreign financial documents and it translates them, analyzes the content, and then provides specific guidance on which forms you need to file based on the type of income. It's particularly good at identifying reportable accounts for FBAR purposes. For your mom's rental properties, it would definitely help categorize that income correctly and identify all reporting requirements. It actually flags things like whether the properties qualify under passive foreign investment company (PFIC) rules, which many people miss. The system is actually built on international tax compliance rules, not just general tax advice. It correctly identified all my uncle's reportable accounts and even caught a foreign mutual fund that would have required special reporting on Form 8621 that we had no idea about. We did have an accountant review everything afterward, and they confirmed the recommendations were spot-on but charged us much less since most of the analysis was already done.
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Christian Bierman
19 Just wanted to update about my experience with taxr.ai since I was asking questions earlier. I decided to try it for my mom's situation with her overseas pension and rental properties, and it was honestly a lifesaver. The system analyzed her foreign bank statements and pension documents and gave us super clear instructions about what needed to be reported. It correctly identified that she needed to file an FBAR for her accounts, and it caught that one of her investment accounts contained PFICs (whatever those are), which apparently have special reporting requirements. The most helpful part was that it created a customized checklist of all the forms she needed to file based on her specific situation. We might still consult with a tax professional for the final review, but this saved us so much time and confusion in figuring out where to even start with her international tax situation.
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Christian Bierman
16 As someone who's dealt with international tax issues for years, I want to suggest something that might save your mom countless hours of frustration. Getting through to the IRS's international tax department is nearly impossible these days - I spent WEEKS trying to get clarification on foreign pension reporting. I finally broke down and used https://claimyr.com to get through to an actual IRS agent. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. Basically, they wait on hold with the IRS for you and call you once they have an agent on the line. This was especially valuable for your mom's situation because the regular IRS phone representatives often don't know the nuances of international tax reporting requirements, and you really need to speak with their international tax specialists to get the right answers about foreign pension treatment and FBAR requirements.
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Christian Bierman
•9 Wait, so you pay someone else to wait on hold for you? That seems so weird. Doesn't the IRS have callback options? And how do you make sure you get connected to someone who actually understands international tax issues and not just a general representative?
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Christian Bierman
•23 This sounds like a complete waste of money. I've always been able to get through to the IRS eventually, and I doubt some service can magically bypass their phone queue. Plus, phone representatives often give incorrect information - I wouldn't trust important tax compliance questions to a random IRS phone agent, especially for something as serious as international reporting requirements.
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Christian Bierman
•16 The IRS does have callback options sometimes, but they're not always available, especially during peak tax season or when call volumes are high. When you get connected, you can specifically ask for an international tax specialist - that's what I did. The regular representatives will transfer you if they can't answer your specific questions. Yes, you're paying to have someone else wait on hold instead of being stuck doing it yourself. For me, it was worth it because I had already spent hours trying to get through multiple times. The longest hold time I experienced was over 3 hours before I hung up. With Claimyr, I was able to go about my day, and they just called me when an agent was on the line. For complex international tax questions that aren't clearly answered on the IRS website, sometimes speaking to a specialist is the only way to get definitive answers.
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Christian Bierman
23 I need to eat my words and update everyone here. After posting my skeptical comments earlier, I decided to try Claimyr anyway because I was desperate to get specific guidance on reporting my foreign pension before the filing deadline. I was genuinely shocked at how well it worked. After weeks of trying to reach the IRS myself with no success (either disconnected or on hold for 2+ hours), Claimyr got me connected to an IRS representative in about 45 minutes. I didn't have to sit around waiting - they just called me when an agent was on the line. The IRS agent was able to confirm exactly how I needed to report my foreign retirement accounts and clarified that my specific pension type was only partially taxable under US rules - something no online research had definitively answered for me. This saved me from potentially over-reporting my taxable income by several thousand dollars. For anyone dealing with international tax questions, especially around foreign pensions and reporting requirements for new green card holders, being able to actually speak with an IRS international tax specialist made a huge difference.
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Christian Bierman
14 One important thing nobody has mentioned yet is that your mother should consider whether she qualifies for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (Form 2555) if she continues living abroad. Since she's retired, this probably won't apply to her pension, but it's important to know about if she ends up doing any work overseas. Also, make sure she's aware that some countries have social security totalization agreements with the US even if they don't have full tax treaties. This can sometimes affect how retirement benefits are taxed.
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Christian Bierman
•3 Would the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion even apply to someone who has a green card? I thought you had to be physically present in the foreign country to claim that, but don't green card holders need to maintain their primary residence in the US?
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Christian Bierman
•14 Yes, green card holders can claim the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion if they meet either the physical presence test (physically present in a foreign country for at least 330 days in a 12-month period) or the bona fide residence test (foreign resident for an uninterrupted period that includes an entire tax year). Green card holders do need to maintain their intent to live permanently in the US, but they are allowed to work and live abroad temporarily. However, staying outside the US for too long (typically more than a year) without a reentry permit can potentially lead to abandonment of permanent resident status. So it's a balance - they can work abroad and potentially claim the exclusion while maintaining their green card, but they need to be careful about how long they stay away from the US.
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Christian Bierman
11 Just a heads-up that as a new green card holder, your mother should be aware of potential "exit tax" implications if she decides to surrender her green card in the future. If she holds the green card for 8+ years and then gives it up, she could be subject to the expatriation tax rules as a "long-term resident." This is especially relevant if she's not planning to move to the US permanently and might surrender her green card later. Worth keeping in mind when making long-term plans!
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Christian Bierman
•18 Would this apply even if someone's net worth is relatively low? I thought the exit tax was only for really wealthy people giving up citizenship. Are the rules different for green card holders?
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