Do I need to report Foreign Pension received from Belgium on US tax returns?
I'm trying to help my mother-in-law figure out her tax situation. She worked in Belgium for about 15 years and moved to the US about 3 years ago. She's currently receiving a monthly pension from the Belgian government and is paying taxes on it to Belgium. I've been reading about the US-Belgium tax treaty that's supposed to prevent double taxation, but I'm confused about whether she still needs to report this foreign pension income on her US tax returns. We use TurboTax for filing and I'm not sure how to properly enter this information if it does need to be reported. Does anyone know if she needs to include this Belgian pension on her US tax return? And if yes, what's the correct way to report it in TurboTax so she doesn't end up paying taxes twice on the same income? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Lola Perez
Yes, your mother-in-law needs to report the Belgian pension on her US tax return, even though there's a tax treaty in place. All worldwide income must be reported on US tax returns for US residents and citizens. The good news is the US-Belgium tax treaty does protect her from double taxation. On her Form 1040, she should report the full pension amount as income, then use Form 1116 (Foreign Tax Credit) to claim a credit for taxes paid to Belgium. This way, she'll effectively only pay the higher of the two tax rates, not both. In TurboTax, you'll want to navigate to the foreign income section and enter the pension as foreign pension income. Then separately enter the foreign taxes paid to Belgium. The software should walk you through completing Form 1116 properly. Make sure to keep documentation of the Belgian taxes paid for your records.
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Nathaniel Stewart
•I'm in a similar situation but with a German pension. Should I be converting the amount to USD based on the exchange rate on the day I received each payment or can I use some kind of yearly average? Also, does it matter if the foreign country taxes the pension at a higher or lower rate than the US would?
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Lola Perez
•For currency conversion, you can use the yearly average exchange rate for regular periodic payments like pensions. The IRS publishes these rates, or you can find them online from reputable financial sources. This is much simpler than tracking daily rates for each payment. The foreign tax rate absolutely matters for the calculation, but not for the reporting requirement. If Belgium taxes the pension at a higher rate than the US would, she'll likely owe no additional US tax after taking the foreign tax credit. If Belgium taxes it at a lower rate, she may owe some additional US tax to make up the difference. The foreign tax credit system is designed to ensure you pay at least the US tax rate on all income, but not double taxation.
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Gabriel Freeman
Don't forget about FBAR requirements too! If your mother-in-law has financial accounts in Belgium that exceed $10,000 total at any point during the year (including pension accounts in some cases), she needs to file an FBAR (FinCEN Form 114). This is separate from tax filing and has massive penalties if you don't comply. I learned this the hard way after moving from France with my pension accounts still active there.
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Ethan Scott
•Oh wow, I had no idea about this FBAR form! Do you know if regular pension payments that go straight to a US bank account would trigger this requirement? Or is it only if she still maintains financial accounts in Belgium? She does have a Belgian bank account that she keeps some money in when visiting family.
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Gabriel Freeman
•The FBAR requirement is only for financial accounts maintained outside the US. If her pension payments are deposited directly to a US bank account, that part doesn't trigger FBAR filing. However, since you mentioned she maintains a Belgian bank account for when she visits family, that account absolutely needs to be reported if the total of all her foreign accounts exceeds $10,000 at any point during the year. The $10,000 threshold applies to the combined total of all foreign accounts, not each account individually. So if she has €9,000 in that Belgian account plus any other foreign accounts that together exceed $10,000, she needs to file the FBAR. The penalties for non-compliance are severe - starting at $10,000 for non-willful violations and much higher for willful ones, so it's definitely not something to overlook.
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Laura Lopez
Just wanted to add that retirement income is handled specifically in Article 17 of the US-Belgium tax treaty. Depending on what type of pension it is (government, private, social security equivalent), different rules may apply. Most Belgian private pensions are only taxable in the US if she's a US resident (which it sounds like she is), but Belgian government pensions might still be taxable only in Belgium. Without knowing the specific type of pension, it's hard to give definitive advice.
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Victoria Brown
•The treaty is super confusing! My aunt has both a Belgian government pension and a private one. The government one is only taxed in Belgium while the private one is taxed in the US with a credit for Belgian taxes. Took us forever to figure that out.
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William Rivera
This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with something similar for my father who has a pension from the Netherlands. One thing I learned that might help - make sure to check if the Belgian pension system has any tax withholding agreements that could affect how much tax is withheld at the source. In our case, we had to file a form with the Dutch tax authorities to reduce the withholding rate based on the treaty benefits. This made the foreign tax credit calculation much cleaner on the US side. Belgium might have similar procedures that could simplify your mother-in-law's situation. Also, definitely keep detailed records of all the Belgian tax documents - not just for the current year but going back a few years. The IRS sometimes asks for historical documentation when they see foreign income reported for the first time, especially with older taxpayers who might have had unreported foreign income in previous years.
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Amina Sy
•This is really valuable information about withholding agreements! I had no idea that you could potentially reduce the tax withheld at the source by filing forms with the foreign tax authority. Does anyone know if this process is worth the hassle for someone who's already paying Belgian taxes on the pension? It sounds like it could make the US filing simpler, but I'm wondering if there are any downsides - like if it affects the foreign tax credit calculation or creates complications if you need to change it later. Also, the point about keeping historical documentation is so important. We've been pretty casual about record-keeping since this is all new to us, but it makes sense that the IRS would want to see a paper trail when foreign income suddenly appears on a return.
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Natasha Ivanova
Great question about the Belgian pension! I went through this exact situation with my mother who has a pension from Ireland. A few key points that might help: First, yes, she absolutely needs to report the full pension amount on her US tax return regardless of the treaty - the IRS requires all worldwide income to be reported. But the good news is the US-Belgium tax treaty will protect her from double taxation through the foreign tax credit system. One thing I discovered that wasn't immediately obvious - make sure you're converting the pension amounts using the correct exchange rates for tax purposes. The IRS has specific guidance on this, and using the wrong conversion method can cause headaches later. Also, since she's been in the US for 3 years, double-check that she properly reported this pension income for the previous tax years too. If this is the first time it's being reported, you might want to consider filing amended returns for prior years to avoid any potential issues down the road. The TurboTax foreign income section should handle most of this, but don't hesitate to consult with a tax professional who specializes in international taxation if the situation feels complex. Belgian pensions can have some unique treaty provisions that general tax software might not catch.
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