Need to file my deceased brother's taxes but his employer refuses to provide W-2
I lost my brother unexpectedly last September and now we're dealing with all the paperwork aftermath. My dad has been appointed as the executor of his estate, but I'm the one helping with most of the financial stuff since Dad isn't great with computers. We're trying to file my brother's final tax return, but we've hit a major roadblock. His employer (a small construction company) is refusing to give us his W-2. I've called them multiple times and even sent a certified letter explaining the situation, but they keep giving me the runaround. First they said they'd mail it, then they claimed they already sent it, now they're saying they need some additional documentation but won't specify what exactly. My brother worked there for about 8 months last year and made around $41,000 before he passed. We have his last few pay stubs but not all of them. The tax filing deadline is getting closer and I'm really stressed about this. What options do we have to file his taxes without the W-2? Can the IRS help somehow? Has anyone dealt with something similar?
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Sebastian Scott
I'm really sorry about your brother. Filing taxes for a deceased person is already challenging enough without an uncooperative employer. You have a few options here. First, you can contact the IRS directly about this issue. Call them at 800-829-1040 with your brother's personal information, approximate employment dates, and estimated earnings. The IRS can send a formal request to the employer and provide you with Form 4852 (Substitute for Form W-2). This form lets you estimate your brother's wages and withholding based on the pay stubs you have. Alternatively, you can file Form 4506-T to request your brother's wage and income transcript directly from the IRS, which would show information from any W-2s reported to them. This might take a few weeks though. In the meantime, gather whatever documentation you have - final pay stubs, bank statements showing deposits, etc. Even his prior year's W-2 from this employer can help establish a pattern if he was paid similarly.
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Sarah Jones
•Thank you for the helpful information! I didn't know about Form 4852. Do you know if using this form might delay processing of his tax return or potentially trigger an audit since we'd be estimating some of the information? Also, would we need to file for an extension while we sort this out?
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Sebastian Scott
•Using Form 4852 shouldn't significantly delay processing if your estimates are reasonable based on the pay stubs you have. While it may increase the chance of additional review, it's not automatically flagged for audit - especially when you document your attempts to get the actual W-2. I would definitely recommend filing for an extension using Form 4868. This gives you until October 15th to file the actual return. Remember though, this is only an extension to file, not to pay. If you estimate your brother owed taxes, you should make a payment with the extension to avoid potential penalties.
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Emily Sanjay
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Mason Kaczka
Another option - check if your brother had an online account with the payroll system his employer uses. Many companies use ADP, Paychex, Gusto, etc., and employees can often access their W-2s directly through those platforms. If you have access to his email, you might find registration info there. Also, don't forget that as the executor, your dad has legal standing. A lawyer can send a more formal letter that might get better results than your requests. Sometimes just letterhead from an attorney is enough to get companies to comply.
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Sarah Jones
•That's a great point about the payroll system! I'll check his emails to see if there's anything from a payroll provider. We haven't gone the legal route yet because we're trying to keep costs down, but it might be worth it if we can't resolve this soon. Has anyone had experience with how the IRS handles these situations if we do end up having to estimate some of the information? His bank statements show regular deposits but they're not always the exact same amount.
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Mason Kaczka
•The IRS is actually pretty understanding in these situations, especially when dealing with a deceased taxpayer. If you document your good-faith efforts to obtain the correct information (keep copies of letters sent, log of phone calls made, etc.), they're unlikely to apply penalties even if the estimates aren't perfect. Variable deposits are common with construction work - overtime, different job sites, etc. can affect pay. If you have even a few pay stubs, you can usually work out the tax withholding rate and apply that same percentage to the total deposits shown in bank statements. The IRS has the actual W-2 information in their system anyway, so they can verify after the fact.
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Sophia Russo
Make sure you're filing as "deceased" correctly. The tax return should have "DECEASED" written across the top with the date of death. The signature line should be signed by the executor as "Personal Representative for [brother's name]." Also, you might need to file Form 56 to notify the IRS of fiduciary relationship. And don't forget that your brother's standard deduction amount doesn't change just because he didn't live the full year - he's entitled to the full amount.
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Evelyn Xu
•Speaking from experience - also make sure you're filing state taxes correctly too! Each state has slightly different rules for deceased taxpayers. Some require additional forms beyond what the federal return needs.
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Amelia Martinez
I'm so sorry for your loss, Sarah. Dealing with uncooperative employers during an already difficult time is incredibly frustrating. Here's something that might help - you can also try contacting your state's Department of Labor or Wage and Hour Division. They often have authority over employers who fail to provide required tax documents and can sometimes get faster results than going through the IRS alone. Additionally, if your brother had direct deposit, his bank statements showing the exact deposit amounts and dates can be very helpful for the IRS. They can often match this up with what the employer actually reported (or should have reported) to verify the accuracy of your estimates. One more thing - make sure you're keeping detailed records of every attempt you've made to get the W-2. Document dates, who you spoke with, what they said, etc. This documentation will be valuable if the IRS has any questions later and shows you made good-faith efforts to get the correct information. You're doing a great job helping your family through this difficult process. Don't let this employer's lack of cooperation add unnecessary stress - you have options and the IRS understands these situations happen.
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