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StarStrider

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Don't forget about the Qualified Business Income deduction (Section 199A)! As a 1099 contractor, you'll likely qualify for a deduction equal to 20% of your qualified business income. This is SEPARATE from your standard or itemized deductions. So if your net self-employment income after expenses is $100k, you might get an additional $20k deduction. This can help offset a big chunk of that self-employment tax you're worried about.

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Zoe Stavros

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Wait, really? I had no idea about this QBI deduction! Does it have income limits or phase-outs I should know about? And do I need to form an LLC or something to qualify for it?

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StarStrider

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Yes, there are income thresholds where phase-outs begin. For 2025, the phase-out begins at $191,950 for single filers and $383,900 for married filing jointly. Since your income is $105k, you should be well below these limits and eligible for the full 20% deduction. You don't need an LLC to claim this deduction - you can claim it as a sole proprietor reporting income on Schedule C. The QBI deduction is calculated on your net profit after business expenses, not on your gross 1099 income. This is another reason to make sure you're tracking all legitimate business expenses properly.

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Has anyone used a S-Corp instead of staying as a sole proprietor for 1099 income? I've heard you can save on SE taxes that way too.

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Jamal Harris

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S-Corps can definitely be a tax-saving strategy for higher-income contractors, but they come with additional costs and complexity. With an S-Corp, you'd pay yourself a "reasonable salary" which is subject to FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare), but you can take the rest of your business profits as distributions that aren't subject to self-employment tax. This can save you about 15.3% on the distribution portion. However, you'll have additional expenses: incorporation fees, annual state fees, separate tax return preparation, payroll processing, etc. Generally, the breakeven point where an S-Corp makes sense is around $80-100k of net profit, so at $105k you might benefit, but you should run the numbers carefully.

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Help! Facing IRS audit for 2021, discovered tax preparer committed fraud!

I'm seriously panicking and need some advice. Just got an audit letter from the IRS for our 2021 taxes, specifically questioning some Schedule-C filings for my husband's construction business. Here's the awful part - we had NO IDEA what a Schedule-C even was until we got this letter! Turns out the tax guy we used (recommended by my cousin) completely inflated our business losses to get us a bigger refund. He charged us based on the percentage of refund we got - which I just learned is totally illegal! We were such idiots not to check his work. He also convinced us to file separately claiming it would "maximize deductions for both our side hustles" but now I realize he just wanted to charge us double and manipulate more numbers. When we confronted him about the audit letter, he actually suggested we LIE to the IRS! We obviously refused. Looking back, we've probably gotten around $25k in improper refunds over 2021-2023, which we're prepared to pay back. We paid this crook about $4500 for his "services" over those years. Our plan right now: 1. Cooperate 100% with the IRS on the 2021 audit 2. Voluntarily fix our 2022 and 2023 returns 3. Report this preparer to the IRS The most disturbing part? After we confronted him, we discovered he tried to redirect about $7,200 from our 2023 refund to his personal account! It only failed because he entered his account number wrong. We'll return this money to the IRS when we get it. What scares me most is potential criminal charges. We didn't knowingly do anything wrong, but these returns are REALLY incorrect. Could we face jail time? What other steps should we take to fix this mess? I know we should've verified his work instead of blindly trusting him. That's completely on us. Any advice would be deeply appreciated.

Aaron Boston

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Make sure you also file Form 14157-A along with the standard complaint form! I went through something similar (though not as extreme) and filing both forms got my case assigned to the Return Preparer Office for investigation. My fraudulent preparer ended up losing his PTIN and facing penalties. Also, document EVERYTHING. Save every email, text message, and piece of paper related to this preparer. Take screenshots of any online communications before he can delete them. Keep receipts showing what you paid him. The more documentation you have showing you were misled, the better position you'll be in.

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Amaya Watson

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Thank you for the specific form recommendation! I didn't know about the 14157-A. Would you mind sharing how long the investigation into your preparer took? And did you end up having to pay back all the incorrect refunds you received in your situation?

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Aaron Boston

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The investigation took about 8 months before I received notification that action had been taken against the preparer. The IRS doesn't share specific details about penalties they impose, but I did receive a letter confirming my complaint was substantiated and that "appropriate action" had been taken. Regarding repayment, yes, I did have to pay back the incorrect refunds plus interest. However, the IRS did waive most of the accuracy-related penalties after reviewing my documentation showing I'd been misled. I was able to set up a payment plan with manageable monthly payments. The most important thing was separating myself from the fraudulent behavior by being completely transparent and proactive.

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You definitely need to look into innocent spouse relief! If most of the fraudulent deductions were on your husband's business, you might qualify even though you filed joint returns. Check out IRS Form 8857. This saved my sister thousands when her ex-husband's business returns were audited and they found all kinds of improper deductions she knew nothing about.

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Chloe Zhang

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This is incorrect advice. They said they filed SEPARATELY, not jointly. Innocent spouse relief only applies to joint returns. Please be careful giving tax advice when you don't fully understand the situation.

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Lily Young

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Have you checked your actual W-4 form on file? Sometimes companies make mistakes with the paperwork. My employer once had me filed incorrectly which caused weird withholding patterns. You should request to see your actual W-4 on file and make sure it matches what you intended to submit. Also, when you claimed exempt, did you properly fill out a new W-4 form or just ask payroll to make the change? There's a specific process for claiming exempt status that requires a proper form submission.

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I did file the proper W-4 form both times - once to claim exempt and then again to go back to my normal withholding status. I've asked HR to show me the forms on file and they said they would "look into it." I'm starting to think there might be an actual glitch in their system based on what everyone is saying here. No one I've talked to seems to think this kind of massive withholding catch-up is normal or legal. Going to push harder for that breakdown of withholding and maybe try contacting the IRS directly.

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Did the extra shifts push you into a higher tax bracket maybe? Sometimes when you suddenly earn a lot more in one pay period, the withholding system thinks your annual salary jumped up permanently and calculates taxes based on that higher projected annual income.

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That's not how tax brackets work though. Even if OP temporarily jumped into a higher bracket, only the amount OVER the threshold gets taxed at the higher rate. The system shouldn't suddenly withhold 85% of their entire check.

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You're right about how brackets work, but payroll systems sometimes make this exact mistake. They see one high paycheck and calculate withholding as if every check will be that high for the rest of the year, which can result in over-withholding. Combined with switching from exempt status, it could explain the issue.

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Ravi Sharma

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I handle this in Zoho Expense by creating a recurring expense for my cell phone. I upload the full bill but then enter only 50% of my line's cost as the expense amount. In the notes section, I document my calculation (total bill, my portion, business percentage). This approach has worked well for me for 3 years and survived a small business audit. The key is consistency and documentation.

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Do you just manually calculate your portion each month, or have you found a way to automate this? My bill varies slightly each month so I'm always having to recalculate.

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Ravi Sharma

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I manually calculate it each month since my bill does vary slightly. I keep a simple spreadsheet that shows the total bill, my portion, and the 50% business use calculation. This takes me about 2 minutes each month but provides a clear audit trail. I know some people set up a fixed monthly amount based on an average, but I prefer the exact calculation each month for accuracy.

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Omar Zaki

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Has anyone used Zoho Analytics alongside Expense for tracking these split business/personal costs over time? I'm trying to see patterns in my business usage but finding it cumbersome to track the splits.

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AstroAce

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I use Zoho Analytics and it's great for this. I created a custom dashboard that pulls my expense data and shows trends in my split costs. You can set up categories for "fully business" vs "partially business" expenses and track them separately.

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Omar Zaki

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That's exactly what I needed to know! I'll look into setting up that dashboard. Do you track the percentages separately or just the dollar amounts?

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Chloe Wilson

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Another thing nobody mentioned yet is that sometimes these ultra-wealthy people use their company perks to reduce personal expenses, which is another form of tax avoidance. Like when a company pays for "business travel" on a private jet, security personnel, housing for "business purposes," etc. These are business expenses for the company (tax deductible) but provide personal benefit to the executive without counting as taxable income. Musk for example has used company resources for personal security and travel - completely legal if structured properly, but effectively gives him benefits that would otherwise require taxable income.

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Is that why so many rich people set up random side businesses? My neighbor claims his boat as a business expense for his "fishing charter company" that mysteriously never has any customers lol

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Just to add another layer to this conversation - one thing the "buy, borrow, die" strategy relies on is the stepped-up basis rule at death. This means that when someone inherits assets, the cost basis resets to the market value at the time of inheritance. Example: If Musk bought Tesla stock at $10 and it's worth $1000 when he dies, normally selling would trigger capital gains tax on the $990 profit. But his heirs get a stepped-up basis to $1000, so if they sell at $1000, they pay ZERO capital gains tax on all that appreciation. This is why super wealthy people can borrow against assets their whole lives, never sell, and then pass enormous wealth to the next generation without anyone ever paying capital gains tax on decades of appreciation. It's completely legal but definitely a huge advantage that most average people can't access.

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