Need help understanding IRC Section 338(h)(10) election for post-acquisition accounting
So I've been thrown into the deep end with this IRC Section 338(h)(10) situation and I'm pretty lost. I'm working with the seller after they've completed a sale, and I'm struggling with how to properly handle the stepped-up basis at FMV for the assets. From what I understand, Section 338(h)(10) treats the stock sale as an asset sale for tax purposes, giving the buyer that stepped-up basis. But I'm stuck on the accounting mechanics. I think I need to: 1) Remove the accumulated depreciation and amortization through retained earnings? (Not sure if this is right) 2) Adjust the value of the assets to FMV through additional paid-in capital? (Also not confident) Has anyone dealt with this specific tax code section before? The transaction closed last month, and I'm trying to get everything properly recorded before we wrap up the books. Any insights or experiences would be super helpful right now.
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Astrid Bergström
I've worked with several 338(h)(10) elections during my career. Let me clarify a few things that might help you out. For the seller's side accounting after a 338(h)(10) election, you're essentially recording a deemed asset sale rather than a stock sale. Your approach needs some adjustment though. Here's what typically happens: For the seller (since you mentioned that's who you're representing): You'll need to record the deemed asset sale by removing the book value of assets and recognizing gain/loss based on the difference between FMV and book value. This doesn't flow through additional paid-in capital - it's an income statement event. The removal of accumulated depreciation is part of removing the book value of the assets, but this flows through the income statement as part of calculating gain/loss, not directly to retained earnings. Remember that the 338(h)(10) election creates a deemed liquidation of the target into the selling consolidated group. The tax consequences can be complex depending on your specific situation.
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Ravi Patel
•Thanks for the response! So if I understand correctly, I'm overthinking this. It's basically just recording the sale of assets at FMV, removing the book value (including accumulated depreciation), and recognizing gain/loss through the income statement - not through equity accounts? Does this mean I should be recording journal entries that debit cash (for proceeds), credit the various asset accounts (to remove them), debit accumulated depreciation (to remove it), and then either debit or credit a gain/loss account for the difference?
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Astrid Bergström
•That's exactly right. You're recording a sale transaction, not an equity transaction. The journal entries would be as you described: debit cash (or whatever consideration was received), credit the asset accounts, debit accumulated depreciation, and either debit or credit a gain/loss account for the difference. The tricky part is that under 338(h)(10), this is all deemed to happen even though physically you sold stock. The tax treatment follows the deemed asset sale treatment, which is why this election is often made - it gives the buyer a stepped-up basis while often not creating significantly more tax burden for the seller compared to a regular stock sale. Remember that there could be different gain/loss recognition for different asset classes, and you might need to allocate the purchase price among the various assets according to the purchase agreement and Section 1060 rules.
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PixelPrincess
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Chloe Martin
•Did you find it actually understood the mechanics of the deemed liquidation part of 338(h)(10)? That's where I'm currently stuck - our tax advisors and accountants are giving me conflicting information about how to record the deemed distribution of assets.
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Sean Fitzgerald
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Zara Khan
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the Form 8883 that needs to be filed with both the seller's and buyer's tax returns. This form allocates the consideration among the asset classes, and both parties need to use consistent allocation. In my experience, the trickiest part of a 338(h)(10) election is getting agreement between buyer and seller on the allocation of purchase price. The buyer typically wants to allocate more to assets with faster depreciation/amortization schedules (like equipment or intangibles), while the seller often prefers allocation to assets with favorable capital gains treatment. Has your purchase agreement specified the allocation, or is that still being negotiated?
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Ravi Patel
•The purchase agreement has a preliminary allocation, but it's subject to adjustment based on the final closing balance sheet. I didn't realize both parties needed to file Form 8883 with consistent allocations - that's really helpful to know. Since you've dealt with this before, any tips on how to handle allocation disputes if they come up? The buyer is pushing for more allocation to equipment and certain intangibles as you mentioned.
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Zara Khan
•Allocation disputes are common with 338(h)(10) transactions. The best approach is to reference the purchase agreement's dispute resolution mechanism. Most well-drafted agreements will include a process for resolving allocation disagreements. If your agreement doesn't specify a process, I recommend getting both tax teams together early to work through it. You can often reach compromise by quantifying the tax benefit/detriment to each side and finding middle ground. Sometimes it helps to bring in an independent valuation specialist to provide objective analysis. Remember that the IRS can challenge allocations that don't reflect FMV, so having support for your positions is important regardless of what's negotiated. Documentation of how you arrived at the values is crucial in case of audit.
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MoonlightSonata
Has anyone used Crypto Software for handling the accounting side of 338(h)(10) elections? Our company just implemented it and I'm trying to determine if it's worth setting up a specialized template for this transaction type.
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Mateo Gonzalez
•I haven't used Crypto specifically, but we used CCH Axcess for our last 338(h)(10) transaction. It had a decent workflow for handling the deemed asset sale and guiding through the Form 8883 preparation. The key was setting up the right asset classes at the beginning. One tip regardless of software - create a separate tracking spreadsheet for the transaction that shows both book and tax basis by asset. This helps tremendously with the future tax return preparation and tracking basis differences going forward.
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Jamal Thompson
This is a really helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar 338(h)(10) election situation and wanted to add one consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet - the timing of when you recognize the deemed asset sale. The election creates a deemed sale at the close of the acquisition date, so make sure you're not accidentally spreading the gain/loss recognition over multiple periods. Everything should hit your books as of the closing date, even if you're doing the accounting work weeks later like Ravi mentioned. Also, don't forget about any depreciation recapture implications. If you have assets with accumulated depreciation (like equipment or buildings), part of your gain might be subject to depreciation recapture at ordinary income rates rather than capital gains rates. This can significantly impact the tax consequences and should factor into your journal entries. One more thing - if your transaction involved any installment consideration or earnouts, the accounting gets even more complex under 338(h)(10). You'll need to determine the fair value of those contingent payments as part of the deemed sale price. Has anyone dealt with earnout provisions in these elections?
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Riya Sharma
•Great point about the timing! I actually made that mistake in my first attempt - I was trying to spread the recognition over the period from closing to when I was doing the books. Your reminder about everything hitting as of the closing date is crucial. Regarding earnouts, I haven't dealt with them personally in a 338(h)(10) context, but I imagine the fair value determination would be similar to regular purchase price allocations under ASC 805. You'd need to estimate the probability-weighted expected value of the earnout payments and include that in your deemed sale price calculation. The depreciation recapture aspect is something I definitely need to review more carefully. We have significant accumulated depreciation on equipment, and I hadn't fully considered how that would affect the character of the gain. Thanks for flagging that - it could make a material difference in the overall tax impact.
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Emily Jackson
•@Jamal Thompson, excellent points on timing and depreciation recapture! I've dealt with earnouts in 338(h)(10) elections before, and you're absolutely right that it adds complexity. For earnouts, we typically engage a valuation specialist to determine fair value using discounted cash flow analysis of the probability-weighted scenarios. The tricky part is that changes in earnout value post-closing don't adjust the original deemed sale price - they're treated as separate transactions. One additional consideration with earnouts in these elections: make sure your purchase agreement clearly specifies whether earnout adjustments flow to the original selling shareholders or get treated as post-closing purchase price adjustments. This can affect both the accounting treatment and tax consequences for all parties. @Riya Sharma, for the depreciation recapture calculation, you'll want to work closely with your tax advisors since the recapture rules can vary by asset type (Section 1245 for equipment vs Section 1250 for real estate). The character of the gain can indeed make a material difference in the overall tax burden.
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Lucy Lam
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm actually dealing with my first 338(h)(10) election as well, and reading through everyone's experiences has cleared up a lot of confusion I had. One thing I wanted to add based on my recent research - if you're working with a target that has NOLs (Net Operating Losses), the 338(h)(10) election can affect how those are treated. The deemed liquidation means the target's NOLs generally can't be carried forward to benefit the buyer, which is different from a regular stock acquisition. This might not apply to your specific situation, but it's something I wish I had known earlier in our process. The tax savings from stepped-up basis need to be weighed against any loss of NOL benefits. Also, for anyone else following this thread who's new to these elections like I am - make sure you understand the filing deadlines. The 338(h)(10) election generally needs to be made by the 15th day of the 9th month after the acquisition date, and both buyer and seller need to make the joint election. Missing that deadline means you're stuck with stock sale treatment. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and resources - this community is amazing for navigating complex tax issues!
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Fatima Al-Qasimi
•@Lucy Lam, thank you for bringing up the NOL considerations - that's a crucial point that often gets overlooked! I'm also relatively new to 338(h)(10) elections and hadn't fully grasped how the deemed liquidation affects loss carryforwards. Your point about the filing deadlines is especially important. I nearly missed this in my own situation because I was so focused on getting the accounting treatment right that I didn't initially realize there were strict timing requirements for making the election itself. One follow-up question for the group: has anyone dealt with situations where the 338(h)(10) election deadline was missed? I'm curious if there are any relief procedures or if you're truly stuck with stock sale treatment once that window closes. Also, building on the NOL discussion - does anyone know how this election affects other tax attributes like credit carryforwards or built-in losses? I assume they're similarly lost in the deemed liquidation, but I'd love confirmation from someone who's been through this. This thread has been incredibly educational for someone navigating their first complex corporate transaction. The practical insights from everyone's real-world experiences are so much more valuable than just reading the tax code!
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Isabella Russo
I've been following this thread closely as someone who's dealt with multiple 338(h)(10) elections over the years. @Fatima Al-Qasimi, to answer your question about missed deadlines - unfortunately, there's generally no relief available if you miss the 9-month deadline for making the election. The IRS is pretty strict about this timing requirement, and I've seen deals where significant tax planning opportunities were lost simply due to missed filing deadlines. Regarding other tax attributes, you're correct that credit carryforwards and built-in losses are typically lost in the deemed liquidation, similar to NOLs. The target corporation is treated as liquidating, so most tax attributes disappear rather than transferring to the buyer. One practical tip I'd add for anyone working through their first 338(h)(10): create a comprehensive checklist early in the process that includes not just the accounting mechanics we've been discussing, but also all the filing requirements and deadlines. Include items like the joint election form, Form 8883 filings for both parties, and any state-level elections that might be required. Also, don't forget to coordinate with your payroll team if the target has employees. The deemed asset sale can affect how certain employee-related liabilities and benefits are treated, particularly for things like deferred compensation or stock-based compensation plans. The complexity of these elections really highlights why getting experienced advisors involved early is so important, even though the fundamental accounting concepts aren't that difficult once you understand the "deemed asset sale" framework.
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Luca Bianchi
•@Isabella Russo, this is exactly the kind of comprehensive guidance I wish I had when I started dealing with corporate tax elections! Your point about creating a checklist early in the process is brilliant - I've been scrambling to keep track of all the moving pieces. The employee-related considerations you mentioned are something I hadn't even thought about yet. Our target company has several employees with stock options and deferred compensation arrangements. Do you know if there are specific rules about how those are treated in the deemed liquidation? I'm wondering if we need to coordinate with HR and legal teams beyond just the accounting and tax folks. Also, your comment about state-level elections is concerning - I've been so focused on the federal requirements that I haven't researched whether our state has any additional filing requirements for 338(h)(10) elections. I assume this varies by state, but do you have any general guidance on where to start looking for state-specific requirements? This thread has been incredibly educational, and I'm grateful for everyone sharing their real-world experiences. It's clear that these elections involve way more coordination across different departments and advisors than I initially realized. The "deemed asset sale" framework makes sense conceptually, but the practical implementation touches so many different areas of the business.
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Dana Doyle
This has been such a valuable discussion to read through! I'm currently working on my first 338(h)(10) election and feeling much more confident after seeing everyone's real-world experiences. One area I haven't seen fully addressed is the impact on deferred tax accounting. When you're recording the deemed asset sale and recognizing the stepped-up basis for tax purposes, this creates significant temporary differences between book and tax basis that need to be reflected in your deferred tax calculations. In our situation, we're seeing substantial deferred tax liabilities arising from the step-up in asset values, particularly for goodwill and other intangibles that don't have book basis but now have tax basis. The deferred tax impact is actually one of the largest components of our overall journal entries. Has anyone dealt with complex deferred tax calculations in these elections? I'm particularly struggling with how to handle the interaction between the deemed asset sale recognition and the related deferred tax effects. Our external auditors are asking for detailed support for the deferred tax calculations, and I want to make sure we're approaching this correctly. Also, @Luca Bianchi, regarding your question about stock compensation - in our case, we had to work closely with legal counsel because some of the target's equity awards accelerated vesting due to the change in control, which created additional complexity in the deemed liquidation analysis. Definitely worth flagging early with your legal team.
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Sean O'Connor
•@Dana Doyle, you're absolutely right about the deferred tax complexity! I'm just starting to wrap my head around this myself, but from what I understand, the stepped-up tax basis creates temporary differences that need to be carefully tracked. I think the key is treating the deferred tax effects as part of the overall deemed asset sale transaction. So when you're recording the step-up in asset values, you'd also record the corresponding deferred tax liabilities (since you now have higher tax basis that will reverse over time through depreciation/amortization). I'm still figuring this out myself, but I believe the journal entry would include debiting the assets for the step-up, crediting deferred tax liability for the tax effect of that step-up, and then the net impact flows through your gain/loss calculation. Has anyone worked through the specific mechanics of calculating these deferred tax amounts? I'm worried about getting the tax rates and timing differences wrong, especially for assets with different depreciation methods for book vs tax purposes. This is definitely an area where I think we need our tax advisors heavily involved - the intersection of 338(h)(10) deemed sales and ASC 740 deferred tax accounting seems like it could get really complex really quickly!
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Beth Ford
I've been working through 338(h)(10) elections for about 8 years now, and this thread covers most of the key issues really well. Let me add a few practical points that might help newcomers: First, regarding the deferred tax discussion - you're on the right track, but don't forget that the deferred tax calculation needs to consider the specific tax depreciation methods that will apply to the stepped-up assets. For example, if you're stepping up equipment that qualifies for bonus depreciation, your deferred tax liability might reverse much faster than you initially calculate. Second, I'd strongly recommend documenting your entire process as you go. In every 338(h)(10) election I've worked on, we've ended up needing to explain our methodology to auditors, tax advisors, or even the IRS years later. Having contemporaneous documentation of your asset allocation decisions, FMV determinations, and calculation methods is invaluable. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the potential Section 197 implications for intangible assets. If you're allocating significant value to customer relationships, non-compete agreements, or other intangibles, make sure you understand which ones qualify for 15-year amortization under Section 197 versus shorter recovery periods. Finally, for anyone dealing with their first election - consider running through the entire process with a small "test case" first if your transaction is complex. We often create simplified models to make sure our methodology is sound before applying it to the full transaction. It's much easier to catch errors early than to unwind incorrect entries later.
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