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Need help obtaining 501(c)(3) status and tax-ID (EIN) for college frisbee team - fundraising options require this

Hey everyone, I'm currently handling finances for our university frisbee club team. We're officially recognized by our university as both a Registered Student Organization and a club sport. While we do get some funding from the school and have a small financial aid system for players (supported by alumni donations), we're really trying to expand our fundraising capabilities for the upcoming season. The issue is that many potential fundraising partners (like Chipotle) require us to have a federal tax-ID number. I've been looking into getting our team recognized as a 501(c)(3) nonprofit and filling out the 1023-EZ form, but I'm hitting roadblocks. I actually called the IRS to ask if we would qualify, but they wouldn't give advice over the phone. Interestingly, the agent mentioned we could possibly just get a tax-ID number (EIN) without completing the 1023-EZ form, meaning we wouldn't be a formal nonprofit. But I couldn't find anything about this approach online. I'm really trying to figure out the best way to: 1. Set up proper fundraising capabilities 2. Potentially avoid sales tax 3. Allow donations to be tax-deductible for donors Does our university frisbee team qualify for nonprofit status? What approach would you recommend? Any insights would be super helpful!

Having worked with several university sports clubs on this exact issue, I can help clarify your options. First, yes, you can absolutely obtain an EIN (Employer Identification Number) without applying for 501(c)(3) status. This is what the IRS agent was referring to. An EIN is basically a tax ID for organizations, similar to a Social Security Number for individuals. Getting an EIN is free and can be done online in minutes through the IRS website. However, having just an EIN won't make donations tax-deductible for your donors or exempt you from sales tax - that requires the full 501(c)(3) status. For a university club sport, you have several options: 1. Work through your university's foundation - Many universities have foundations that can accept tax-deductible donations on behalf of registered student organizations. This is often the simplest approach. 2. Form a separate legal entity and apply for 501(c)(3) status - This is more complex but gives you more independence. University sports clubs often qualify under the "amateur sports" category of 501(c)(3). 3. Partner with an existing "fiscal sponsor" nonprofit - Some nonprofits will let you operate under their tax-exempt umbrella for a small fee. For fundraising like Chipotle events, option #1 might be easiest if your university allows it. Have you checked if your university has a process for this?

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This is really helpful, thank you! I'm in a similar situation with our debate team. Question though - if we go with option #2 and form our own 501(c)(3), does that create any issues with the university since we're still officially a university club? And roughly how long does the 1023-EZ approval process take these days?

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Creating a separate legal entity (option #2) can sometimes create complications with your university relationship, but it's manageable. Most universities have policies for affiliated organizations - you'll need to check your specific school's rules. Some schools will require a formal MOU (Memorandum of Understanding) outlining the relationship. The main considerations are insurance coverage, use of university name/logo, and financial autonomy. The 1023-EZ process is much faster than the full 1023 application. Currently, most 1023-EZ applications are processed within 2-4 months if submitted correctly. The filing fee is $275. Remember that you need to incorporate as a nonprofit in your state before applying for federal tax exemption.

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Did you end up getting approved? And did you have to create a separate legal entity from your university or did you manage to keep it connected somehow? Our lacrosse team is looking at the same options.

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I'm skeptical about online services for important legal stuff. Did you have any issues with your university administration when you set up your own 501(c)(3)? Our university is super protective about affiliated organizations using their name.

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We did get approved! It took about 10 weeks from submission to approval, and the process was surprisingly smooth once we had all the right documentation. The key was being very specific about how we promote amateur sports competition (which is one of the charitable purposes the IRS recognizes). Regarding the university connection, we did create a separate legal entity, but we worked closely with our student activities office. We had to create a formal affiliation agreement that specified how we could use the university name (we went with "Friends of [University] Climbing" as our official name). The university actually appreciated that we were taking initiative rather than causing problems.

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One important thing nobody's mentioned yet - check if your university already has a process for this! I'm at a large state university, and our recreational sports department already had a system where club sports could fundraise through the university foundation. We didn't need our own 501(c)(3) at all. Donations go to the foundation earmarked for our team, the donors get tax deductions, and we can access the funds through our club account. We even got a specific fund ID number to give to restaurants for fundraisers. Definitely talk to your university's club sports coordinator before going through all this work. Our university was actually against club teams forming separate legal entities because of liability and branding concerns.

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Thanks for bringing this up! I actually did check with our university first (probably should have mentioned that). Our situation is weird - the university foundation does accept donations for us, but they take a 15% administrative fee, AND they require fundraisers like restaurant nights to go through a lengthy approval process that takes 6-8 weeks. We're looking at doing a bunch of these quick fundraisers throughout the year, and that approval timeline just doesn't work for us. That's why we're considering the separate entity route. Did your university have similar restrictions?

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Ah, that makes sense why you're looking at alternatives. Yes, our university had a fee too, but it was only 5% which seemed reasonable for the convenience. And our approval process is much faster - usually 1-2 weeks. One option some teams at our school used was creating an "alumni association" that was technically separate from the current student team. That organization got 501(c)(3) status and could do fundraising without university red tape, then make donations to the team. Might be worth exploring if you have supportive alumni.

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Former IRS employee here. Just to clarify a few things: 1. Getting an EIN (tax ID) is indeed separate from applying for 501(c)(3) status. You need an EIN first, then you apply for tax-exempt status. 2. The 1023-EZ is only available for smaller organizations (projected annual income under $50,000 for the next 3 years). Is your team under that threshold? 3. 501(c)(3) status under the "amateur sports" category is absolutely viable for college club teams, but be very careful about your language in the application. You need to emphasize promoting amateur athletics in the community, not just funding your own team's activities. 4. One warning: if you're officially recognized by the university, check if they have policies about affiliated organizations seeking independent tax status. Some universities prohibit this or require special permission.

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Thanks for the insider perspective! For the amateur sports category, does community outreach need to be a primary activity? Our tennis club mainly focuses on intercollegiate competition, with only occasional community clinics. Would that be enough to qualify?

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Community outreach doesn't need to be your primary activity, but you do need to demonstrate that your organization's purpose extends beyond just funding your own team. Intercollegiate competition can qualify under promoting amateur athletics, but it's helpful to include at least some broader community benefit in your application. For example, hosting open training sessions, running clinics for local schools, or organizing community tournaments can strengthen your application. Even if these are a smaller part of your activities now, including them in your planned activities and mission statement is important. The key is showing that you're promoting the sport beyond just your immediate membership.

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Has anyone mentioned the filing deadline implications? If you're planning fundraising activities soon, timing matters a lot here. The IRS generally recommends filing for 501(c)(3) status within 27 months of formation to have tax-exempt status apply from your date of formation. If it's been longer since your club was formed, your tax-exempt status might only apply from the date of application forward. This could impact how you handle any fundraising you do while waiting for approval. Also, don't forget about state requirements! Even with federal 501(c)(3) status, you might need to register for state tax exemptions separately, and some states require charitable solicitation registration before fundraising. I learned this the hard way with our cycling club - we got federal approval but forgot about state requirements and had some complications.

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Great thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation for our university soccer club. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the potential impact on your current university funding. When we looked into forming our own 501(c)(3), our student activities office warned us that having independent nonprofit status might affect our eligibility for certain university grants and allocations. Apparently some schools have policies that prevent them from funding organizations that have their own tax-exempt status, since it creates potential conflicts with their own nonprofit designation. We ended up going the EIN-only route for now - it satisfied most of our immediate fundraising needs (restaurant nights, local business partnerships) without the complexity of full nonprofit status. We're planning to revisit the 501(c)(3) application next year once we have more clarity on the university policy implications. @AstroAce - have you checked with your student activities office specifically about how independent nonprofit status might affect your current university funding and RSO status?

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