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Malik Davis

Need help entering backdoor ROTH IRA conversion info on tax software - struggling with Form 8606

So here's my situation with this backdoor ROTH IRA conversion I did last year (2024): I completed a backdoor ROTH IRA conversion from a traditional IRA all within 2024, and now I'm trying to file my taxes. Fidelity only sent me a 1099-R form, which shows: - Gross distribution (Line 1) and taxable amount (Line 2a): $9,462.25 - Line 2b has X's on both "taxable amount not determined" and "total distribution" - Distribution code on Line 7 is "2" with an X on "IRA/SEP/SIMPLE" When I called Fidelity about this, they basically said this form might be enough for the IRS to understand it was a backdoor Roth conversion. They mentioned I could include my "End of year statement" but didn't provide any guidance about Form 8606. I'm using a tax filing software and I'm completely confused about how to properly report this backdoor Roth IRA conversion. I've already entered the 1099-R information, but now I'm stuck on the Form 8606 sections (Part I and Parts II/III). Can anyone help me figure out how to correctly enter this information to properly report my backdoor ROTH IRA conversion? I really don't want to mess this up and trigger some kind of audit.

The 1099-R is just part of what you need. Form 8606 is crucial for documenting your backdoor Roth IRA properly. For Form 8606 Part I: - Line 1: Enter your traditional IRA contributions for 2024 that were NOT deductible (likely the full amount if you did a backdoor Roth) - Lines 2-3: Enter any previous nondeductible contributions and add to get your basis - Line 4: Enter the year-end value of ALL your traditional IRAs (should be zero if you converted everything) - Complete the rest of the calculations as prompted by your software For Form 8606 Parts II/III: - Line 16: Enter the amount you converted ($9,462.25 based on your 1099-R) - Line 17: Enter your basis from line 14 (should match your contribution if this is your first backdoor Roth) - Line 18: This calculates the taxable amount of your conversion (should be minimal if you converted shortly after contributing) Your 1099-R shows the gross distribution, but Form 8606 is where you document that you already paid tax on those contributions, preventing double taxation.

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StarStrider

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Thanks for the explanation! I'm still a bit confused though. If I contributed $6000 to the traditional IRA (non-deductible) and then the value grew to $9,462.25 before I converted it to a Roth, do I have to pay taxes on that growth of $3,462.25? And should I list the $6000 on line 1 of Form 8606 Part I?

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Yes, you would enter the $6000 non-deductible contribution on line 1 of Form 8606 Part I. That establishes your basis. For your second question, you're exactly right - you would owe taxes on the growth that occurred between your contribution and conversion. In your example, you'd pay taxes on the $3,462.25 growth but not on your original $6000 contribution (since that was made with after-tax dollars). This is why doing the conversion quickly after the contribution is recommended - to minimize taxable growth.

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Ravi Gupta

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How does taxr.ai handle the situation if you've done backdoor Roth conversions in previous years too? I'm wondering about the carryover basis calculations and if it can help with that complexity?

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Omar Hassan

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Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. Does it actually work with all the major tax filing software? I'm using TurboTax and their interface for Form 8606 is pretty confusing. Also wondering if it handles partial conversions or if you have existing pre-tax IRA balances (pro-rata rule)?

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Ravi Gupta

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It actually handles previous year conversions really well. The system asks if you have prior year Form 8606s and uses that information to calculate your correct basis. It saved me from making a huge mistake with my carryover amounts. For TurboTax specifically, it gives you step-by-step screenshots of where to enter each number. It definitely handles the pro-rata rule calculations too - that was actually my situation since I had an old SEP-IRA with pre-tax money. It calculated exactly what portion of my conversion would be taxable based on all my IRA balances.

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Omar Hassan

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Diego Vargas

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CosmicCruiser

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CosmicCruiser

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Something important that nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you get the timing right if you're doing a backdoor Roth in the future. I messed up last year by waiting several months between my traditional IRA contribution and the conversion, which resulted in significant growth and therefore more taxes. The ideal approach is: 1. Make non-deductible contribution to Traditional IRA 2. Convert to Roth IRA as soon as possible (ideally within days) 3. Keep thorough records of both transactions 4. Make sure you file Form 8606 every year you make non-deductible contributions, even if you don't convert that year The growth between contribution and conversion is what creates the taxable event. If you convert immediately, there's usually minimal growth to worry about.

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Malik Davis

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This is super helpful advice! I definitely waited too long between my contribution and conversion (about 3 months), which explains why the taxable amount is higher than I expected. For next year, should I also be requesting specific forms from Fidelity ahead of time to make this process smoother?

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You actually don't need to request any special forms from Fidelity in advance. They'll automatically send you the 1099-R after the conversion. The key is understanding that YOU are responsible for tracking your non-deductible contributions via Form 8606, not Fidelity. For next year, just keep your confirmation statements showing both your contribution and conversion amounts and dates. These are available in your online account. The most important thing is minimizing the time between contribution and conversion to reduce taxable growth, as you've learned this year.

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Sean Doyle

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One thing that seriously confused me with backdoor Roth conversions was understanding why the 1099-R shows the full amount as taxable when it shouldn't be if you made non-deductible contributions. Tax software doesn't automatically know your contribution was non-deductible. That's why Form 8606 is so important - it's where you tell the IRS "Hey, I already paid tax on this money, don't tax me again!" If you're struggling with the software interface, sometimes it helps to read through the actual Form 8606 instructions on the IRS website first, then go back to the software. The actual form is more straightforward than how some tax apps present it.

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Zara Rashid

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This is so true! I was panicking when I saw my 1099-R showing the entire distribution as taxable. I almost paid thousands in unnecessary taxes before realizing I needed to complete Form 8606.

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Luca Romano

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Warning: Don't forget that if you have ANY other traditional IRA funds (including SEP or SIMPLE IRAs), you'll get hit with the pro-rata rule when doing backdoor Roth conversions. This catches a lot of people by surprise. For example, if you have $50,000 in a traditional IRA from an old 401k rollover, and you add $6,000 non-deductible for a backdoor Roth, you can't just convert the $6,000 and call it non-taxable. The IRS considers all your IRA funds as one pool, so only about 10.7% of your conversion would be non-taxable.

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Malik Davis

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Oh wow, I didn't realize this! Thankfully I don't have any other traditional IRA funds, but this is really important info. Does this also apply if my spouse has traditional IRA funds or are those treated separately?

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Luca Romano

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Good news - your spouse's IRAs are completely separate for pro-rata calculations. The IRS treats each individual's IRA accounts as their own pool, so your backdoor Roth conversion won't be affected by anything your spouse has in their traditional IRAs. That's one of the few areas where the IRS is actually taxpayer-friendly in these calculations! Just make sure you each file your own Form 8606 if you're both doing backdoor Roth conversions.

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