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Need advice on Canadian Tax Residency with US job - Cross Border Tax situation

I'm in a complicated Canada-US cross border tax situation and hoping someone can shed some light before I potentially owe CRA thousands. Here's my timeline: - August 2024: Got engaged - October 2024: Moved to US on a TN visa while my fiancée came with me on a B-2 visitor visa - December 2024: Went back to Canada for our wedding - January 2025: Wife returned to US with me, now on an H-4 spousal visa The issue is that the cross-border tax accountants my company hired are telling me I should file as a Canadian tax resident for 2024 (meaning I'd owe tax on worldwide income) because my now-wife didn't enter on a spousal visa until 2025. But I thought CRA considers your marriage status at the end of the tax year to apply for the whole year? So even though we moved to the US when she was my fiancée, shouldn't they consider her my spouse for the entire 2024 tax year? This makes a huge difference in determining my tax residency status and whether I need to pay Canadian taxes on my US income. Any insights from people who've dealt with Canada-US cross border taxation would be really appreciated!

You're dealing with a classic cross-border residency determination issue. Your understanding about marriage status is partially correct - CRA does consider your Dec 31 marital status for some provisions, but tax residency is more complex. For Canadian tax residency, CRA looks at your "residential ties" to Canada. Primary ties include home, spouse/dependents still in Canada, and personal property. Secondary ties include bank accounts, driver's license, health insurance, etc. The fact that your fiancée/wife was on a temporary visitor visa rather than a permanent-type visa in 2024 could suggest your ties to Canada remained strong. What matters most is whether you established stronger residential ties to the US than to Canada when you moved in October. Did you maintain a home in Canada? Did you keep Canadian bank accounts, investments, driver's license, health insurance? These factors often carry more weight than just marital status. Also, check the Canada-US Tax Treaty, Article IV specifically addresses residency tiebreaker rules when both countries could claim you as a resident. This might help your case regardless of what the accountants are saying.

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Thanks for the detailed response. I did keep my Canadian bank accounts and investments, but I got a US driver's license and health insurance through my employer right away. We rented out our condo in Toronto when we left. I thought the treaty had a 183-day rule, but does the fact that I was only in the US for about 80 days in 2024 (Oct-Dec) hurt my case for being considered a US resident for tax purposes?

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The 183-day rule is just one factor, not the only determinant. Since you were in the US for less than 183 days in 2024, you'll need to rely more heavily on other factors to establish US residency. Renting out your Canadian condo is good - that shows intent to establish residency elsewhere. US driver's license and health insurance also help your case. The Canada-US Tax Treaty has tiebreaker rules that apply when both countries could claim you as a resident. First, they look at where you have a permanent home. If you have one in both countries (or neither), they look at your "center of vital interests" - the country with which your personal and economic relations are closer. If that's unclear, they look at habitual abode, then citizenship.

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Wait, how does this even work? I've been trying to reach CRA for weeks about my own residency situation. Does CRA actually honor what they tell you over the phone for complex tax matters? I thought you needed written rulings for that kind of thing.

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I won't get into specific costs, but it was absolutely worth it for the time saved. I had already spent hours across multiple days trying to get through myself with no success. The international tax line is especially difficult to reach. You're right that phone conversations alone aren't binding rulings, but the CRA agent I spoke with documented our discussion in my file, which provides some protection if my return is ever questioned. They walked me through the residency determination criteria specific to my situation and confirmed my understanding of how the Canada-US tax treaty applied. For really complex matters or if you need absolute certainty, you'd want a formal ruling, but for many situations, having a documented conversation is sufficient.

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One thing to consider that nobody's mentioned yet - look at Form NR73 (Determination of Residency Status). Even if you don't submit it, going through the questions can give you clarity on how CRA would likely view your situation. For cross-border situations like yours, I've found that documenting everything is crucial. Make sure you have records of when you left Canada, entered the US, got your US driver's license, opened US bank accounts, etc. These dates matter for establishing your residency break. Also, don't forget about departure tax if you're deemed to have become non-resident! You'd need to report deemed disposition of certain assets.

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Thanks, I hadn't heard of Form NR73! I just looked it up and going through the questions does help clarify things. Looks like my situation is right on the edge regarding residency status. What kind of assets typically trigger departure tax? I have some Canadian investments (TFSA, RRSP) and a rental property now (our former condo). Would those be affected?

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Your RRSP is exempt from departure tax, so no worries there. For your TFSA, you won't face departure tax, but be aware that the US doesn't recognize TFSAs, so any income earned in it will be taxable in the US. The rental property is where it gets complicated. When you become non-resident, there's a deemed disposition of the property at fair market value (though you don't actually sell it). You can file an election to defer the departure tax on the property, but you'll need to file section 216 returns annually for your rental income and may need to have 25% of the gross rent withheld unless you file an NR6. Also, when you eventually sell, you'll face withholding tax under section 116 unless you get a clearance certificate.

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Just a quick warning from someone who went through this - be careful about how you handle any Canadian registered accounts while living in the US. TFSAs are especially problematic because the US taxes them and they have complex PFIC reporting requirements. For RRSPs, file Form 8891 with your US return to defer taxation. For Canadian mutual funds in non-registered accounts, be prepared for nightmare PFIC reporting. Also, if you have over $10K total in foreign (Canadian) accounts, don't forget to file FBAR with your US taxes!

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Quick correction - Form 8891 was eliminated in 2014. You no longer need to file it for RRSPs. The IRS now automatically recognizes the tax deferral under the treaty. You do still need to report the RRSP on FBAR though if the total value exceeds $10K.

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The fact that your wife was initially on a tourist visa and then switched to a spousal visa is actually a common scenario. Based on the Canada-US tax treaty, what really matters is where your "permanent home" was available to you after you moved to the US. I went through something similar and was advised that having a lease agreement in the US showing intent to permanently reside there, along with evidence of moving personal belongings, was crucial in establishing US residency for treaty purposes. Also, document when you gave up provincial health insurance - that's a big one that CRA looks at for residency determination.

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Great point about provincial health coverage! I did officially notify Ontario about my move and surrendered my OHIP coverage when I left. I should have documentation of that somewhere. We do have a 12-month lease in the US that we signed in October, and I brought most of my belongings with me (though some larger items are in storage in Canada). Sounds like these factors could help support my case for US residency despite the visa complications.

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Cross-border tax situations like yours are incredibly nuanced, and it sounds like you have several factors working in your favor for establishing US residency status. The key thing to understand is that CRA's residency determination isn't just about your marital status or visa type - it's about where your life is actually centered. From what you've described, you have strong indicators of establishing US residency: you moved with clear intent (got the TN visa for work), obtained US driver's license and health insurance immediately, rented out your Canadian property, signed a 12-month US lease, and surrendered provincial health coverage. The fact that your wife was initially on a tourist visa versus a spousal visa is less relevant than the overall picture of your residential ties. What matters more is that you both moved together with the intention of establishing life in the US, regardless of the specific visa categories at the time. I'd recommend getting a second opinion from a cross-border tax specialist who isn't affiliated with your company. The accountants your employer hired may be taking an overly conservative approach that could cost you thousands unnecessarily. Make sure to document everything - dates of departure, lease agreements, utility setup, bank account openings, etc. This documentation will be crucial if CRA ever questions your residency determination. The Canada-US tax treaty is designed to prevent exactly this kind of double taxation scenario, so don't let anyone tell you that you're automatically stuck paying Canadian taxes on your US income just because of visa timing.

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