Need Help with Tax Forms for Futures Trading Losses on Tradovate - What Forms Besides 1099?
I started futures trading with Tradovate a few months ago and ended up losing around $275. I'm trying to figure out the tax situation before filing season hits. From what I understand, Tradovate will send me a 1099 form, but I'm not sure if that's all I need or if there are other forms I should be preparing. I've never filed my own taxes before - my family has a tax preparer we visit in person, and I usually just hand over my W-2 from my regular job. I'm planning to just give them the printed 1099 from Tradovate when I go in, but wanted to check if there's anything else they'll need from me related to the futures trading. While researching online, I saw mentions of Form 6781 and some other tax forms specifically for futures trading. Should I be worried about these? Do I need to prepare anything else besides the 1099 from Tradovate? I know this probably isn't the best place for professional tax advice, but since we're months away from tax season, I figured I'd start gathering information now rather than rushing to figure it out later. Any insights would be really helpful!
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Owen Jenkins
What you're dealing with involves Section 1256 contracts, which futures are classified as for tax purposes. Your Tradovate 1099 will report your trading activity, but Form 6781 is indeed the form you'll need to report these gains or losses on your tax return. The good news is your tax preparer should handle completing this form for you - you don't need to fill it out yourself. Just make sure you give them the 1099 from Tradovate when you go in for your appointment. The 1099 will have all the information they need to complete Form 6781 properly. One thing to know about futures trading for taxes: gains and losses are treated under the 60/40 rule, meaning 60% is considered long-term capital gains/losses and 40% is short-term, regardless of how long you held the contracts. This usually works in your favor tax-wise.
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Lilah Brooks
•Thanks for the info! Quick follow-up question: I also have some stock trading losses from Robinhood. Will those be handled differently than my futures losses? And second question - can I combine all these losses to offset other income?
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Owen Jenkins
•Stock trading losses are handled differently than futures. Stock losses are reported on Schedule D and are either short-term or long-term depending on how long you held them. They don't get the 60/40 split treatment that futures do. You can use capital losses to offset capital gains, and if your total losses exceed your gains, you can deduct up to $3,000 against other income. Any remaining losses can be carried forward to future tax years.
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Jackson Carter
I was in the exact same boat last year with my futures trading. After struggling to understand all the tax forms, I discovered taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) and it was a life-saver for organizing my trading tax situation. It analyzed all my Tradovate statements and helped identify exactly which numbers needed to go where, especially for that Form 6781 everyone keeps mentioning. The nicest part was that I could just export everything from taxr.ai and hand it to my tax guy who said it saved him a ton of time compared to what he usually deals with from traders. Since you mentioned going to a tax preparer, this might make their job easier too.
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Kolton Murphy
•Does taxr.ai work with other brokers too? I trade futures on NinjaTrader but also have stocks on Fidelity. Would it handle both?
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Evelyn Rivera
•I'm a bit skeptical about these tax tools. How accurate is it for more complex situations? I had wash sales across multiple accounts last year and my accountant had to spend hours fixing mistakes from the tax software I used.
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Jackson Carter
•Yes, taxr.ai works with pretty much all brokers including NinjaTrader and Fidelity. It's designed to handle multiple account types and consolidate everything into one report. For complex situations with wash sales across accounts, that's actually where it shines compared to basic tax software. It was built specifically to handle the complicated edge cases that regular tax programs miss. My situation included options, futures, and stocks across three platforms and it handled the calculations correctly, including proper wash sale identification.
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Evelyn Rivera
After seeing that recommendation for taxr.ai, I decided to try it with my mess of trading accounts. I was really skeptical at first because I've been burned by tax software before, but wow - it actually worked perfectly! It pulled in all my futures trades from both NinjaTrader and Tradovate, plus my stock accounts. The best part was how it clearly separated everything for Form 6781 for the futures and organized my Schedule D stuff for stocks. My tax preparer was impressed with how organized everything was compared to the pile of statements I brought him the previous year. Saved me money on prep fees too since he didn't have to spend hours sorting through everything.
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Julia Hall
If you're having trouble getting through to the IRS about any questions on futures trading taxes, try Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). I wasted days trying to get someone on the phone at the IRS to answer questions about Form 6781 last year when I started trading. Their callback service got me connected to an actual IRS agent in about 20 minutes instead of waiting on hold forever. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I was surprised they were actually able to answer my specific questions about how to report futures trading losses across multiple brokers. Saved me a ton of stress during tax season.
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Arjun Patel
•How does this service actually work? Seems weird that they could get you through faster than calling directly. Does it just auto-dial until it gets through?
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Jade Lopez
•This sounds like BS honestly. The IRS phone system is the same for everyone. How could some random service possibly get you through faster than me calling myself? Seems like a scam to charge people for something that's free.
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Julia Hall
•It works by using their system to navigate the IRS phone tree and wait on hold for you. When they reach an agent, they call you and connect you. It's not magical - they're just handling the waiting part instead of you having to stay on the line. No, it's not auto-dialing. They have technology that works with the IRS phone system to maintain your place in line without you being physically on the call. Once they get through to an agent, they immediately connect you so you're talking directly to the IRS.
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Jade Lopez
I was completely wrong about Claimyr. After posting that skeptical comment, I decided to try it anyway because I was desperate to ask about my futures trading situation before filing my taxes. It actually worked exactly as described - I got a call back in about 35 minutes and was connected to an IRS representative who answered all my questions about Form 6781. I would have spent hours on hold otherwise (like I did last year). The agent confirmed that my Tradovate 1099 would have everything I needed, and explained how the 60/40 rule works for futures trading losses. Definitely using this service again next year when I inevitably have more tax questions.
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Tony Brooks
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you keep really good records of all your trades, not just rely on the 1099. Tradovate should give you detailed statements, but sometimes brokers make mistakes on the tax forms. I learned this the hard way last year when my 1099 had incorrect totals. Also, if you did any day trading of futures (opening and closing positions on the same day), the reporting gets a bit more complex and having your own records will help your tax preparer tremendously.
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Alice Coleman
•Thanks for mentioning this. Do you recommend any specific way to track trades? Should I just export statements from Tradovate monthly or is there a better system?
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Tony Brooks
•I'd recommend exporting your statements at the end of each month at minimum. Personally, I use a simple spreadsheet where I record the date, contract, entry/exit prices, and P&L for each trade. This makes it much easier to verify the 1099 is correct when it arrives. There are also trading journal apps like TraderVue or TradeMetria that can import your Tradovate data and organize it nicely, which gives you both performance metrics and good tax records. Whatever system you choose, the important thing is consistency and making sure you capture all the necessary details.
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Ella rollingthunder87
Don't forget that if you trade micro e-minis or other small futures contracts, the wash sale rules don't apply like they do with stocks! This is a huge advantage for futures traders. You can take your losses in December to offset income and then jump right back into the same positions in January without triggering wash sale rules.
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Yara Campbell
•Are you sure about that? I thought Section 1256 contracts were totally exempt from wash sale rules regardless of contract size. My tax guy told me this was one of the main benefits of futures over stock trading.
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