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Zoe Papadopoulos

Help! Daytrading ES Futures in 2024, got 1099-B with only Box 8-11 filled out. Using Taxact and confused...

I was daytrading ES Futures (ES500) in 2024 and used both Interactive Brokers and Tradovate as my platforms. Just received my 1099-B forms from both brokers but noticed only Boxes 8-11 are filled out on them, with the rest being blank. I'm using Taxact software this year and I'm wondering if I need to manually download all my transactions from each broker and somehow load them into Taxact? That would be hundreds of trades! I called customer service at Tradovate and the rep mentioned something about futures having different reporting requirements, which is why the form looks like this. I checked the IRS instructions for 1099-B and it seems to confirm this, but I'm still confused about the proper way to report this in my tax software. Does anyone have experience with reporting futures trading using Taxact? Do I actually need to import every single transaction, or is there a simpler way to handle this based on the special reporting rules for futures?

The Tradovate rep was right - futures have different tax treatment than stocks. Futures contracts are considered Section 1256 contracts, which means they're subject to the 60/40 rule: 60% of your gains are treated as long-term capital gains and 40% as short-term, regardless of how long you held them. With ES futures, you don't need to enter every individual transaction. The totals reported in boxes 8-11 on your 1099-B actually summarize your aggregate profit/loss. In TaxAct, you'll want to look for the section for Section 1256 contracts or regulated futures contracts. You'll enter the summary amounts from your 1099-B there. You should see a place to enter your aggregate profit/loss amount. This will flow to Form 6781 (Gains and Losses from Section 1256 Contracts and Straddles) which will then calculate the 60/40 split automatically and transfer the appropriate amounts to Schedule D.

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Thanks for the info! So if I understand correctly, I should look for a specific section in TaxAct for Section 1256 contracts rather than the regular capital gains section? And I just need to enter the totals from boxes 8-11, not all my individual trades?

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Yes, look specifically for the Section 1256 contracts section in TaxAct. You'll just need to enter the summary amounts from boxes 8-11 on your 1099-B. No need to enter each individual trade - that would be incredibly time-consuming and unnecessary for futures contracts. TaxAct will use those totals to complete Form 6781, which handles the special 60/40 tax treatment automatically. The software should then flow the appropriate amounts to Schedule D and your 1040.

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Mei Wong

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Does it work with other tax filing software besides TaxAct? I'm using TurboTax this year but have a similar situation with ES futures.

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PixelWarrior

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I'm skeptical about using third-party tools with my financial data. How do you know it's calculating everything correctly? Especially with the 60/40 rule for futures, I worry about audits if something gets reported incorrectly.

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Dylan Evans

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Make sure you're using the correct cost basis method for your futures trades. I messed this up in 2023 and had to file an amended return. For futures, the default method is typically "mark-to-market" at year end, meaning any open positions are treated as if they were closed on December 31st. Did either of your brokers include any open positions in their 1099-B calculations? Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.

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I actually closed all my positions before year-end specifically to avoid the mark-to-market complexity. But that's a good point - how would I know if the broker included open positions in their calculations? Would it be clearly stated somewhere on the 1099-B?

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Dylan Evans

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Smart move closing everything before year-end! If you did that, then you shouldn't have any mark-to-market issues to worry about. If you did have open positions, most brokers will include a separate section or statement with your 1099-B that specifically identifies "Year-End Mark-to-Market Adjustments" or something similar. Some will also provide supplemental statements explaining how they calculated the amounts in boxes 8-11, including any open positions. If you don't see anything like that in your documents, and you closed everything, you should be good to go.

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Sofia Gomez

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Watch out for wash sales with futures! I got flagged for audit last year because...

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Actually, that's incorrect information. Futures contracts (Section 1256 contracts) are specifically EXEMPT from wash sale rules. This is one of the big advantages of trading futures versus stocks. Since futures are marked-to-market at year end and get the 60/40 tax treatment, wash sale rules don't apply to them. You can trade the same futures contract multiple times in a day or immediately rebuy after a loss, and you don't have to worry about wash sales at all. If you got flagged for audit, it was likely for some other reason, not wash sales on futures contracts.

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Great thread! Just want to add that when you're entering the Section 1256 contract information in TaxAct, make sure you double-check that the software is properly splitting your gains/losses using the 60/40 rule. I had an issue last year where TaxAct initially treated all my ES futures gains as short-term capital gains instead of applying the 60/40 split. I had to go back and specifically look for the "Section 1256 Contracts" section rather than just entering it under regular capital gains. Also, if you traded on multiple platforms like you did, make sure you're combining the totals from all your 1099-B forms before entering the aggregate amounts. The IRS wants to see one combined total on Form 6781, not separate entries for each broker.

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Jayden Hill

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation with ES futures trading but using FreeTaxUSA instead of TaxAct. Quick question for everyone - when you say "boxes 8-11" on the 1099-B, are you referring to the aggregate profit/loss amounts? My Interactive Brokers 1099-B shows totals in what looks like box 8 (Net Gain or Loss), but I want to make sure I'm looking at the right numbers. Also, has anyone had experience with FreeTaxUSA's Section 1256 contract entry? I'm hoping it's as straightforward as what you all described for TaxAct. The 60/40 rule seems like it should simplify things once I find the right section in the software. Thanks for all the great advice - this thread probably saved me from hours of confusion!

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