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Moving investments from Fidelity Business Account (S-Corp) to Personal Account - tax implications?

My CPA just recommended that I transfer some investments from my S-Corp's Fidelity Business Account to my personal investment account. I'm trying to understand if this makes sense from a tax perspective before I go ahead with it. They mentioned a couple things that I want to verify: 1. Apparently with the business account, we need to report unrealized gains/losses every year since the Fidelity Business Account is treated as a bank account for tax purposes. But if the same investments were in my personal account, I'd only need to report recognized gains/losses (when I actually sell). Is this really how it works? 2. My accountant claims we can transfer these investments from the business Fidelity account to my personal one without triggering any tax consequences. This sounds too good to be true - can I really move assets between these accounts tax-free? I've had the S-Corp for about 3 years and have accumulated around $175k in various ETFs and some individual stocks in the business account. Just trying to make sure I understand the implications before making any moves. Thanks for any insight!

Your accountant is partially right but there are important nuances here. For question 1: It depends on your S-Corp's accounting method. Most small businesses use cash basis accounting, where you generally wouldn't report unrealized gains/losses. If your S-Corp uses accrual accounting, then yes, you might be reporting these unrealized changes. Moving to your personal account would mean you only report when you sell, regardless of accounting method. For question 2: This is trickier. Moving investments from your S-Corp to your personal account is considered a distribution to you as the shareholder. While this doesn't create an immediate tax bill, it may have implications: - It needs to be properly documented as a distribution - It could affect your stock basis in the S-Corp - If distributions exceed your basis, you could have capital gains tax - There may be reasonable compensation issues if you're taking too many distributions compared to salary I'd recommend getting a second opinion and discussing exactly how this would be documented. The mechanics of the transfer matter significantly.

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What about the valuation of the stocks when they're distributed? Would they be valued at original purchase price or current market value? And does this count as a "constructive dividend"?

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The valuation would be at fair market value (current value) on the date of distribution - not the original purchase price. This is important because it establishes your new cost basis for these investments in your personal account. It's not technically a "constructive dividend" because S-corporations don't issue dividends - they make distributions. These distributions are generally not taxable to the extent of your stock basis, but they do reduce your basis. If distributions exceed your basis, then the excess would be treated as capital gain.

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Did this tool actually show you how to document the transfer properly? My accountant is giving me conflicting advice about how to record it on the books.

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I'm skeptical about online tools for something this complex. Did it actually account for your specific state tax requirements too? S-Corps are treated differently in many states.

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Yes, it provided specific documentation templates for the transfer, including how to record it in the company books and personal records. It generated a corporate resolution form and calculation worksheet that my accountant was impressed with. It definitely accounted for state-specific requirements. I'm in California which has some unique S-Corp rules, and the analysis included California-specific considerations. The tool asked for my state during setup and tailored the advice accordingly. It was much more comprehensive than just a generic calculator.

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Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet: make sure you're not violating any loan covenants if your S-Corp has any business loans. I found this out the hard way when I moved assets from my business to personal and triggered a technical default on a business loan that had minimum asset requirements. Also, depending on your state, moving significant assets out of the business could potentially impact liability protection. You might want to consult with a business attorney as well as your accountant.

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Good point about loans, but what about creditor protection in general? I've heard keeping investments in your business can be risky if you get sued.

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You're absolutely right about creditor protection. In many states, having excess assets (especially investments not needed for operations) sitting in your business can actually increase your risk profile if someone sues your business. This is actually one legitimate reason to consider moving investments to your personal account, especially if you can then place them in protected personal vehicles like certain retirement accounts or, depending on your state, insurance products. But again, this varies significantly by state, which is why consulting with an attorney who understands asset protection in your specific jurisdiction is crucial.

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Has anyone calculated whether this actually saves money in the long run? I'm in a similar situation and trying to figure out if the tax benefits outweigh the hassle of the transfer.

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It really depends on your investment strategy and tax situation. For me, the biggest benefit was simplifying my tax reporting. I was constantly stressed about tracking all those unrealized gains/losses for investments I wasn't planning to sell. Moving them to personal meant I only deal with taxes when I actually sell something. But there's also the timing aspect - if your investments are currently down from their purchase price, distributing them now means your personal cost basis would be lower, potentially creating more taxable gain when you eventually sell. Conversely, if they're up significantly, distributing now locks in that higher basis.

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This is a complex situation that really requires careful planning. I went through something similar with my S-Corp about 18 months ago and learned some hard lessons. One thing I don't see mentioned yet is the timing of when you do the valuation for the distribution. The IRS requires you to use fair market value on the date of distribution, but with volatile investments, this can make a huge difference. I made the mistake of not coordinating the valuation date with my transfer, and ended up with a mess when my ETFs dropped significantly between when we calculated the distribution value and when Fidelity actually processed the transfer. Also, make sure your S-Corp election is still valid before doing this. I discovered during my transfer that we had inadvertently violated some S-Corp requirements a year earlier (related to shareholder loans), which could have invalidated our election. Fortunately we were able to fix it retroactively, but it could have been a disaster. My advice: get everything documented in writing from your CPA first, including exactly how they plan to handle the mechanics of the transfer, the valuation method, and how it will be reported on both your business and personal returns. Don't rely on verbal assurances for something this significant.

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This is really helpful perspective! The timing issue with valuation sounds like a nightmare. How long did it typically take for Fidelity to process the actual transfer once you initiated it? I'm wondering if there's a way to coordinate with them to minimize the gap between valuation and transfer dates, or if I should just expect some variance and plan accordingly. Also, when you mention S-Corp election issues with shareholder loans - was this related to having too much in loans versus salary, or something else? I want to make sure I'm not walking into a similar trap.

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