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Just a word of caution - if your wife is on F1 and working on campus, her employer might incorrectly continue to treat her as FICA-exempt even after she becomes a resident for tax purposes. Many university payroll systems automatically exempt all F1 students from FICA without checking their 5-year exemption status. If this happens and you know she should be paying FICA (either due to the MFJ election or because she's passed the 5-year substantial presence exemption), you might need to file Form 843 to pay those taxes separately. Otherwise, you could face penalties later if the IRS catches this discrepancy during an audit.
That's a very helpful warning - I hadn't thought about that potential issue. If her employer incorrectly continues the FICA exemption, would we calculate the amount owed and include it with our tax return? Or is there a separate process for paying FICA taxes that weren't withheld?
You'd need to calculate the employee portion of FICA taxes (7.65% of her wages) and pay them separately using Form 843. You can't include them with your regular tax return. I recommend talking to her university's payroll department directly to alert them about her change in FICA status. Many universities have procedures for handling this transition, and it's much easier if they correct the withholding going forward rather than you having to settle up at tax time.
This is a great discussion with lots of helpful insights! I wanted to add one more consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet. If your wife does end up being considered a resident alien (either through the substantial presence test as Javier mentioned, or through the MFJ election), make sure to also consider the impact on any tax treaty benefits she might currently be claiming. Many tax treaties have provisions that exempt students from US tax on certain types of income (like fellowship or scholarship income), but these benefits are typically only available to nonresident aliens. Once she becomes a resident for tax purposes, she may lose access to these treaty benefits. This could be particularly important if she receives any scholarship money beyond tuition and required fees, as that income might become taxable when she transitions to resident status. You'll want to factor this into your overall calculation of whether MFJ makes financial sense. Also, don't forget that if you do make the MFJ election, you'll need to continue making it every year until you formally revoke it or her status changes naturally. It's not a year-by-year choice once you start.
This is such an important point about treaty benefits that often gets overlooked! I'm actually dealing with this exact situation right now. My spouse is from India and has been claiming treaty benefits under Article 21 of the US-India tax treaty for her research assistantship income. We were leaning toward making the MFJ election, but now I'm wondering if losing those treaty benefits might offset the tax savings we'd get from filing jointly. Her research assistantship pays about $18,000 annually, and currently that's completely tax-free under the treaty. Do you know if there's a way to calculate exactly how much additional tax we'd owe on that research income if she becomes a resident? And is the treaty benefit loss immediate, or does it phase out over time?
You'll definitely want to pause any automatic contributions before starting the transfer process. Most brokerages can't seamlessly "take over" automatic investments during a transfer - you'll need to set up new automatic investment plans with your new brokerage once the transfer is complete. For dividend reinvestment, contact your current custodian to see if you can temporarily switch to cash dividends instead of automatic reinvestment during the transfer window. This prevents any complications with partial shares or reinvestments happening mid-transfer. Regarding transfer fees - many brokerages will actually reimburse transfer fees if you're bringing over a substantial amount like $27k. Call your new brokerage and ask if they have a "transfer fee reimbursement" program. Fidelity, Schwab, and Vanguard often waive these fees for accounts over $25k. Don't be afraid to negotiate - they want your business! Also, consider timing your transfer right after dividend payment dates to avoid any dividends getting caught in limbo during the transfer process. Most brokerages have transfer specialists who can walk you through the optimal timing for your specific holdings.
One important thing to keep in mind is that even if you successfully transfer the assets to your personal account, you'll still need to be prepared for the ongoing tax responsibilities. Since UGMA accounts often have investments that have been growing for years, you might be inheriting some significant unrealized gains. Make sure you get detailed records of the purchase dates and cost basis for every single holding before the transfer. Your custodian should be able to provide this information, but sometimes it can be incomplete, especially for older investments or if there have been stock splits or mergers over the years. Also, consider whether transferring everything at once is the best strategy. If you don't need access to all $27k immediately, you might want to transfer smaller amounts over time to better manage any potential tax implications and to test the process before moving your entire portfolio. Some brokerages are more efficient with partial transfers, and it gives you a chance to work out any kinks in the process before transferring everything.
This is really smart advice about doing partial transfers! I'm actually in a similar situation with a smaller UGMA account ($8k) and was planning to move everything at once, but breaking it down makes so much sense. @483b78218ddc Do you have any specific recommendations for how much to transfer in the first batch? Like should I start with just one or two holdings to see how the process works, or is there a dollar amount that's typically easier for brokerages to handle? I'm also wondering about the cost basis documentation - my account has some stocks that were purchased like 5+ years ago when I was really young. Should I be worried if my custodian can't provide complete records for the older purchases?
A simple trick I learned from my tax guy: if Box 8 is checked (like on your form), it means the school is reporting based on when amounts were PAID, not when they were billed. So even though you were billed in November 2024, if nothing was actually paid until January 2025, technically those transactions should show up on next year's 1098-T. The fact that your Box 5 shows $11,250 means some scholarship/grant money was actually disbursed during calendar year 2024. The question is what academic period was that money for?
This is actually backwards - Box 8 being checked means they're reporting based on amounts BILLED during the calendar year, not amounts paid. It's super confusing because schools can choose either reporting method.
I went through almost the exact same situation last year! The key thing to understand is that the 1098-T is just an information document - it doesn't dictate what you can or should claim on your taxes. What matters is the actual relationship between your scholarships and qualified education expenses. Since you mentioned the $11,250 scholarship was disbursed in January 2025 for your final semester, and your qualified expenses of $6,350 were also from January 2025, you should be able to match them up on your 2024 return. The IRS allows you to report scholarship income and related qualified expenses in the same tax year, even if there are timing discrepancies with the 1098-T. Here's what I'd recommend: In TurboTax, when you get to the education section, enter your actual qualified education expenses of $6,350. This will reduce the taxable portion of your scholarship from $11,250 to $4,900 ($11,250 - $6,350). Only the amount that exceeds your qualified expenses should be taxable. Make sure to keep good records of your actual tuition payments and receipts, since the 1098-T doesn't reflect your real expenses. The IRS cares more about what you actually paid than what's reported in the boxes.
Has anyone here actually had to pay estimated taxes on an inheritance? I got about $50k from my grandfather's house sale last year and didn't pay estimated taxes. Now I'm worried about penalties.
I did! I received about $75k from my mother's estate in 2023 and had to make an estimated payment. The key is whether there was a capital gain between the date of death and the sale date. In my case, the house appreciated about $30k between her death and when it sold 8 months later. My share of that gain was enough that I needed to make an estimated payment to avoid underwithholding penalties.
Just to add some clarity on the estimated tax question - the IRS has a "safe harbor" rule that might help you avoid penalties even if you don't make quarterly payments. If you paid at least 100% of last year's tax liability through withholding and other payments (or 110% if your prior year AGI was over $150,000), you generally won't owe penalties even if you have a large tax bill from the inheritance. That said, if the capital gain from the estate sale is substantial, you might still want to make an estimated payment to avoid a big tax bill in April. The IRS charges interest on unpaid taxes even if you qualify for the safe harbor penalty protection. One thing I learned from my own situation - keep detailed records of the date of death value versus sale price. The trustee should provide this information, but having your own documentation (like the death certificate date and any appraisals) can be helpful if there are questions later.
Dylan Mitchell
One thing nobody has mentioned yet is that the form 8962 repayment limitation is income-based, so it varies depending on your household income as a % of the federal poverty level. If your income is just slightly above one of these thresholds, you might be able to reduce your income enough to qualify for a lower repayment limit. For 2024 returns (filed in 2025), I believe the limits are: - Under 200% FPL: $350 single/$700 family - 200-300% FPL: $950 single/$1,900 family - 300-400% FPL: $1,500 single/$3,000 family - Over 400% FPL: No limitation, full repayment
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QuantumQuasar
β’Are these thresholds based on MAGI or AGI? And can contributing more to an IRA help lower your income enough to drop into a lower repayment bracket?
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Dylan Mitchell
β’The thresholds for Form 8962 are based on your Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI), not your AGI. For most people, MAGI for marketplace purposes is your AGI plus certain additions like tax-exempt interest and excluded foreign income. Contributing to a traditional IRA can absolutely help lower your income enough to drop into a lower repayment bracket! This is one of the most effective strategies for managing your repayment limitation. Other options include contributing to an HSA if you have eligible health coverage, making SEP-IRA or Solo 401(k) contributions if you're self-employed, or timing business expenses if you run your own business.
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Asher Levin
I've been dealing with Form 8962 repayment limitations for a while now, and one thing that really helped me was understanding the timing of when to report income changes to the marketplace. If you know your income is going to be higher than expected (like getting a bonus or new contract), you can actually report this change during the year and reduce your advance premium tax credit payments. This prevents you from having to pay back as much at tax time, even with the repayment limitation protection. The key is to report changes within 30 days if possible. I learned this the hard way after two years of hitting the repayment cap. Now I check my projected annual income every quarter and update the marketplace if there's a significant change. It's made my tax filing much smoother and reduced the amount I have to repay each year.
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Eli Wang
β’This is really helpful advice! I had no idea you could update your income projections quarterly like that. Do you happen to know if there's a specific threshold for what counts as a "significant change"? Like is it a percentage increase or a dollar amount that triggers the need to report? I'm trying to figure out if getting a small side gig would be worth reporting or if I should wait until it becomes more substantial.
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