Married Filing Separately vs Jointly - W2 income & spouse's business under SSN
Hey tax folks! I'm trying to figure out what would be most beneficial for our 2024 taxes - filing jointly or separately. Here's our situation: I work as a nurse making hourly wages with W2s. My wife runs her photography business under her social (not an LLC or anything formal). We've been married for about 4 years and have always filed together. The big change is we just welcomed our baby girl in late December 2024! So now I'm wondering if our filing approach should change too? We live in Washington state (no state income tax). Our combined household income last year was around $145k, with about 70% coming from my nursing job. Is there any advantage to filing separately with a new baby and my wife's business income? Or should we stick with joint filing? I keep hearing different things from friends and family. Any advice would be super appreciated! Let me know if you need any other details about our situation.
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Zainab Omar
Based on your situation, filing jointly is likely still your best option, but it's worth comparing both methods to be sure. With a new child, you'll qualify for tax benefits like the Child Tax Credit (up to $2,000 per qualifying child), which can be claimed by either parent when filing separately, but income phase-out limits are lower when filing separately. For your wife's business, filing separately doesn't change her self-employment tax obligations, but it might affect her qualified business income deduction depending on your total income levels. When filing jointly, you can directly offset business losses against your W2 income, which isn't possible when filing separately. One important consideration: filing separately severely restricts several tax benefits. You'd both have to take the standard deduction or both itemize. You'd also lose or reduce education credits, child care credits, and retirement savings contributions credits. Since Washington has no state income tax, you don't have that complication to factor in.
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Connor Gallagher
•What about student loan payments? I've heard filing separately can help if one spouse is on an income-based repayment plan, especially for the spouse with the business income. Does that make sense to consider?
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Zainab Omar
•You raise an excellent point about student loans. If either spouse is on an income-based repayment plan for federal student loans, filing separately can sometimes lower the monthly payments since they'd be calculated based on only one income rather than combined incomes. This is definitely a situation where running the numbers both ways makes sense. The tax savings from filing jointly might outweigh the student loan payment reduction, or vice versa, depending on your specific loan amounts, income differential, and which repayment plan you're using. It's one of the few scenarios where filing separately might actually be beneficial despite losing other tax benefits.
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Yara Sayegh
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Keisha Johnson
•Did it also help with figuring out quarterly estimated payments for the business? That's where I'm struggling the most with my wife's etsy shop income.
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Paolo Longo
•I'm curious - does it actually run the numbers for both scenarios or just give general advice? I've been burned by "calculators" before that just spit out generic recommendations.
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Yara Sayegh
•It actually calculated both scenarios using our specific numbers. It pulled the data from our previous returns and ran the math for both filing statuses, showing side-by-side comparisons. The analysis broke down exactly which credits and deductions changed between the two options, not just the bottom line number. For quarterly estimated payments, yes! It created a payment schedule for my husband's business based on projected income, accounting for our W2 withholding too. That prevented us from overpaying throughout the year, which was our problem before.
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Paolo Longo
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CosmicCowboy
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Oliver Schulz
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Natasha Orlova
Something nobody's mentioned yet - if you file separately, you lose the ability to contribute to a Roth IRA if your income exceeds $10,000! This limit is ridiculously low compared to filing jointly where the phase-out doesn't start until $218,000. Also, the standard deduction for MFJ is exactly twice the single amount, so no loss there, but tax brackets for MFS aren't exactly half of MFJ brackets. Run the numbers both ways for sure!
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Javier Cruz
•Wait seriously? That Roth IRA limit is crazy low! Is that for 2024 taxes or 2025?
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Natasha Orlova
•That's the limit for 2024 and it's been at $10,000 for married filing separately (living together) for years with no inflation adjustment. The disparity between MFJ and MFS for Roth eligibility is one of the biggest "penalties" for filing separately. For 2025, the joint filers' phase-out range increases to $218,000-$228,000, but the MFS limit stays at that same $10,000 if you lived together at any point during the year. It's definitely designed to discourage separate filing for most couples.
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Emma Wilson
OP, I'm in a similar situation (W2 income married to sole prop business) and we found that filing jointly saved us about $4,800 compared to filing separately. The biggest factors were: - Higher income thresholds for child tax credit - Being able to offset business losses against W2 income - Lower overall tax brackets - Full retirement account options My wife's business actually had a rough year and showed a small loss, which directly reduced our taxable W2 income. That wouldn't have helped if we filed separately.
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QuantumQuasar
•Thanks for sharing your experience! That's a huge savings filing jointly. Did you have any issues with audit risk having both W2 and business income? That's one thing I'm a bit worried about.
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Emma Wilson
•We haven't had any audit issues in the 5 years we've been filing this way. The key is making sure your wife's business expenses are legitimate and well-documented. Keep digital copies of all receipts and maintain a separate business checking account if possible. The IRS doesn't target returns just for having both W2 and business income - that's incredibly common. They look for unusual deductions or suspicious patterns. As long as your wife is reporting her income honestly and taking reasonable deductions, your audit risk isn't significantly higher than anyone else's.
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Zoe Papadopoulos
Congratulations on your new baby girl! As a tax professional, I can tell you that filing jointly is almost certainly your best option given your situation. Here's why: With $145k combined income and a new baby, you'll benefit significantly from the Child Tax Credit ($2,000), which has much higher income phase-out limits for joint filers ($400k vs $200k for separate). Your wife's photography business income will also work better on a joint return because: - Any business losses can offset your W2 income directly - She may qualify for the 20% Qualified Business Income deduction, which phases out at higher income levels for separate filers - Self-employment tax stays the same regardless of filing status The main scenarios where separate filing helps are: - Large medical expenses (3% AGI threshold is easier to meet with lower individual income) - Student loan income-based repayments - One spouse has significant miscellaneous deductions Given your income levels and new child, I'd estimate joint filing will save you $2,000-4,000 compared to separate filing. The standard advice is always to calculate both ways, but joint filing has significant advantages for most married couples with children. Make sure your wife is tracking all business expenses and considering quarterly estimated payments for 2025!
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NeonNebula
•This is really helpful! I'm actually in a very similar situation as OP - W2 income with a spouse who does freelance work. One thing I'm curious about is the quarterly estimated payments you mentioned. How do you calculate those when you have both W2 withholdings and business income? I've been overpaying and getting huge refunds, which I know isn't ideal. Also, does the timing of when the baby was born matter for the full Child Tax Credit? Since OP's daughter was born in late December 2024, do they get the full benefit for the 2024 tax year?
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