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Chloe Harris

Managing tax costs and complexity of an SPV for pooled investments

My friends and I are looking at creating an SPV to pool our money for investing in a private company. We need to understand what kind of costs we'll face, especially for tax preparation. Here's our situation: We're backing a sponsor who's doing a QSBS eligible deal (purchasing a C-corporation). The C-corp will be bought by an LLC PTE HoldCo, and we're planning to pool our money in an SPV to buy units in that HoldCo. Because of the C-corp structure, we're hoping the tax reporting will only be needed in the year we make our investment and then again during years when we get liquidity from the C-corp (dividends or when we sell shares). Does this setup make sense? With this relatively simple partnership arrangement, I'm thinking the tax prep fees for the SPV partnership return and K-1s should be pretty minimal - like under $750 per filing. Is that reasonable or am I way off?

Diego Vargas

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Your setup makes sense structurally, but I think you might be underestimating the tax preparation costs. While the C-corp does simplify some aspects, the SPV itself will still require annual tax filings regardless of whether there are distributions or not. The SPV (as a partnership) will need to file Form 1065 and issue K-1s to all partners every year, even in years with no activity. The partnership may have expenses, income (even if just minimal interest), or basis adjustments that need to be tracked and reported. For a "simple" SPV with maybe 5-10 investors and minimal transactions after the initial investment, you're probably looking at $1,500-3,000 per year for tax preparation, depending on your location and the complexity of your investor group.

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Chloe Harris

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Thanks for the reality check. I was hoping we could avoid annual filings in years with no activity. So even if the SPV just sits there holding HoldCo interests with no distributions or sales, we still need to file? Also, does the number of investors in the SPV significantly impact the cost? We're looking at probably 8 investors total.

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Diego Vargas

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Yes, unfortunately partnerships need to file annually regardless of activity level. Even with zero transactions, you'll need to file Form 1065 and issue K-1s to maintain compliance. The IRS wants to track the entity's existence and ownership continuity. The number of investors does impact cost, but with 8 investors you're still in the "small" category. Preparation fees increase more dramatically when you get to 15+ investors because of additional compliance requirements and the complexity of tracking all the different allocations. With 8 investors, you're probably looking at the lower end of the range I mentioned, closer to $1,500-2,000 annually.

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NeonNinja

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After struggling with exactly this situation last year, I found a really helpful service called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that specializes in partnership tax solutions including SPVs. They helped analyze our structure and actually saved us a ton of headaches with our partnership reporting. Their system analyzed our operating agreement and investment docs and gave us specific guidance on structuring the SPV to minimize ongoing costs. They also had templates for QSBS tracking which was super helpful for ensuring we could claim the exclusion later. Might be worth checking out before you finalize your structure.

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Does taxr.ai handle the actual tax preparation or just the advisory part? We've got a similar setup but with a real estate investment, and our biggest challenge is finding someone who understands partnership structures without charging big-4 accounting prices.

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Sean Murphy

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I'm a bit skeptical about these specialized services. Did they actually help with compliance filings or just give advice? I always worry about these tax tools that sound great but then you still need an accountant anyway to do the real work.

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NeonNinja

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They handle both the advisory part and can do the actual tax preparation. Their whole platform is built around partnerships and investment entities, so they understood our SPV structure immediately. They can provide both the upfront structural advice and the ongoing compliance work. For compliance filings, they do the actual Form 1065 and all K-1s, and their pricing was way more reasonable than what we were quoted by traditional accounting firms. The big difference is they use technology to automate a lot of the repetitive parts while still having tax professionals review everything.

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Sean Murphy

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I wanted to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai. I decided to try them out after our conversation here, and I have to say I'm really impressed. They analyzed our entire SPV structure in about 48 hours and identified several issues with our operating agreement that would have created tax headaches down the road. Their system flagged that our allocation provisions weren't aligned with how QSBS benefits would flow through, and they helped us adjust it. The best part was they connected me with a partnership tax specialist who actually understood SPV structures and the QSBS rules. The whole process was way more affordable than what our regular accountant quoted us. Wish I'd known about them before we drafted our original docs!

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Zara Khan

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Luca Ferrari

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How does that actually work though? Don't they need your personal info to discuss your tax situation with the IRS? I'm interested but nervous about sharing that kind of sensitive information.

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Nia Davis

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This sounds too good to be true. The IRS wait times are ridiculous lately, but I'm doubtful any service can actually solve this. I tried calling about our partnership return for over a week straight and never got through. You're saying this actually worked?

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Zara Khan

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Nia Davis

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Something else to consider with your SPV is the state tax implications. Depending on where your investors are located, you might have state filing requirements in multiple states. This can add significantly to your annual compliance costs. For example, if your SPV has investors in California, New York, and Texas, you might need to file partnership returns in each of those states, which can easily add $500-1,000 per state to your annual preparation costs.

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Chloe Harris

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I hadn't even thought about the state filing issues. We do have investors across 3 different states. Is there any way to structure things to minimize this complexity? Or is this just an unavoidable cost of having investors in multiple states?

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Unfortunately, this is largely unavoidable when you have investors in multiple states. Each state has different rules, but generally if you have partners residing in a state, that creates "nexus" requiring a filing in that state. Some SPVs use a blocker entity for certain investors to simplify this, but that adds its own complexity and costs. For just 3 states, it's probably simpler to just file in each state. The good news is that while the first year requires more setup, the ongoing filings become more routine and can sometimes be bundled for a lower price by your tax preparer.

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QuantumQueen

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For QSBS tracking specifically, make sure whoever prepares your taxes understands the documentation requirements. We had an SPV investment in a QSBS-eligible company, but when it came time to exit, we discovered our accountant hadn't maintained the proper documentation from day one to support the exclusion. Cost us a fortune in taxes that could have been avoided. Make sure your operating agreement specifically addresses QSBS tracking and that you keep meticulous records of the holding period for each investor.

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Aisha Rahman

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This is so important! We had a similar issue where half our investors couldn't take full advantage of QSBS because the documentation wasn't right. Did you find any specific software or system that works well for tracking this?

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Lucas Schmidt

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One thing I'd add to this conversation is that you should also budget for potential audit defense costs. While SPVs with simple structures are less likely to be audited, the IRS has been focusing more on partnership returns lately, especially those involving investment activities. Even a simple audit can cost $2,000-5,000 in professional fees to handle properly. Consider getting audit protection insurance or setting aside a small contingency fund from your SPV for this possibility. It's not common, but when it happens, you don't want to be caught off guard with unexpected costs that have to be split among all the investors. Also, make sure your operating agreement clearly spells out how these ongoing compliance costs will be handled - whether they come out of the SPV's cash or are billed back to investors pro-rata. This prevents awkward conversations later when the annual tax bills come due.

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