Line a17 on Form 1120S question: Do SEP contributions for current or prior year go on this line?
I'm running the books for my brother's small S Corp (just him as the only employee) and I'm confused about timing for SEP contributions. He always funds his retirement account for the previous year in the first quarter of the next year. For example, he's about to make his 2023 SEP contribution next week in March 2024, and last year he made his 2022 contribution in February 2023. I'm trying to figure out Line 17 on the 1120S form where pension/retirement contributions go. Should I be entering what was actually paid during the calendar year (which would be the prior year's contribution), or should I be entering the amount that's allowed for the current tax year (like the 25% of salary for SEP) even though it hasn't technically been paid yet? I was reading through Publication 560 and now I'm thinking I should be deducting 2023's contribution on the 2023 return, even though that money won't actually leave the business bank account until 2024. But since we're cash-basis, shouldn't we report what was actually paid? I'm so confused!
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Keisha Jackson
You're on the right track! For SEP contributions, there's a special rule that allows them to be made after the end of the tax year. Even though your brother's S Corp operates on a cash basis, SEP contributions can be deducted on the 2023 Form 1120S Line 17 as long as they're made before the filing deadline (including extensions). So if your brother is making his 2023 SEP contribution in March 2024, that amount should go on Line 17 of the 2023 1120S. This is different from most cash-basis expense recognition because retirement plans get this special timing rule to encourage saving. The key is that the contribution must be designated specifically for 2023 and made before the filing deadline for that tax year. Publication 560 is correct - you're deducting the 2023 contribution on the 2023 return even though the money leaves the account in 2024.
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Paolo Moretti
•Wait, I'm a bit confused. If the S Corp is on cash basis, shouldn't deductions only be taken when they're actually paid? I've always heard that cash basis means you claim income when received and expenses when paid. How is this different?
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Keisha Jackson
•You're right that cash basis generally means you deduct expenses when they're paid. SEP IRAs (and other qualified retirement plans) are an exception to this rule. The tax code specifically allows for contributions to be made after year-end but still counted for the previous year. This exception exists specifically to give businesses more time to calculate their exact contribution amounts based on final year numbers. As long as the contribution is designated for 2023 and made before the filing deadline (including extensions) for the 2023 return, it can be deducted on Line 17 of the 2023 1120S.
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Oliver Weber
•How does it work with other retirement accounts? My S Corp client has a Solo 401k instead of a SEP. Would the same principle apply or does taxr.ai know the difference?
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Amina Diop
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Malik Thomas
One thing nobody has mentioned is that you need to make sure the SEP contribution amount doesn't exceed the limits. For 2023, it's 25% of compensation up to a maximum of $66,000. If your brother is the only employee, make sure his W-2 wages from the S Corp are properly structured to allow for the SEP contribution he wants to make. I made the mistake of not paying myself enough W-2 wages one year, which limited how much I could contribute to my SEP. Had to amend everything which was a huge pain.
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QuantumQuasar
•That's a really good point I hadn't considered. My brother took about $120,000 in W-2 wages from the S Corp in 2023, so his max SEP contribution would be around $30,000, right? He was planning to contribute about $25,000, so I think we're good there. Is there anything else I should watch out for with these SEP contributions? This is my first year helping with his books.
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Malik Thomas
•Yes, with $120,000 in W-2 wages, the maximum SEP contribution would be $30,000 (25% of $120,000), so his planned $25,000 contribution is well within limits. You're good to go there. Another thing to watch for is making sure you properly document the contribution as being for the 2023 tax year. The financial institution holding the SEP IRA should provide some kind of form or confirmation that specifically designates this as a 2023 contribution, even though it's being made in 2024. Keep this documentation with your tax records in case of audit.
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Isabella Oliveira
Has anyone used Drake Tax software for this situation? I'm preparing several S Corp returns with SEP contributions and Drake seems to automatically put the current year's contribution (made in the following year) on Line 17, but I want to make sure it's handling it correctly.
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Ravi Kapoor
•I use Drake for all my S Corp clients and it handles this correctly. When you enter the retirement plan contribution, there's a field to specify which tax year the contribution applies to. Drake will then put it on Line 17 of the appropriate year's return, regardless of when it was actually paid.
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Isabella Oliveira
•Thanks for confirming! That's exactly what I needed to know. I was worried I might need to manually override something, but sounds like Drake has this covered as long as I specify the tax year correctly.
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Oliver Weber
This is such a common source of confusion! I went through the exact same thing when I started handling my family's S Corp taxes. The key insight that finally clicked for me is that SEP contributions are one of the few exceptions to the normal cash-basis timing rules. Think of it this way: the IRS wants to encourage retirement savings, so they created special timing rules that let you make the contribution after year-end but still deduct it for the previous tax year. This gives you time to see your final numbers before deciding on the contribution amount. Just make sure when your brother makes that 2023 SEP contribution in March 2024, he tells the financial institution it's specifically for tax year 2023. They should give you some kind of documentation confirming this designation. Then that amount goes on Line 17 of the 2023 Form 1120S, even though the cash won't leave the business account until 2024. The deadline for making the contribution is the same as the filing deadline for the return (including extensions), so you have plenty of time to get it sorted out.
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Ravi Sharma
•This is really helpful! I'm new to handling business taxes and was getting overwhelmed by all the different timing rules. Your explanation makes it much clearer - the SEP contribution exception exists specifically to encourage retirement savings, which makes sense from a policy perspective. One follow-up question: when you say the deadline is the same as the filing deadline including extensions, does that mean if I file for an extension on the 1120S, I have until October to make the 2023 SEP contribution? Or does it have to be made by the original March deadline regardless of extensions?
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