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Ravi Malhotra

Fiscal Year End for S-Corp - Which Tax Year Return Should I File?

Hey tax people! I'm running my small business as an S-Corporation with a fiscal year ending September 30th, 2024. I'm confused about which tax year return I should be filing for. If my fiscal year ends 9/30/2024, do I file for the 2023 tax year or the 2024 tax year? I'm trying to get ahead of this for planning purposes. What's the general rule on this? I keep getting different answers depending on who I talk to, and I don't want to mess this up and trigger an audit or something. This is only my second year with an S-Corp structure, so I'm still figuring out these details.

The general rule is that you file based on the calendar year in which your fiscal year ends. Since your fiscal year ends on September 30, 2024, you would file a 2024 tax return (not 2023). For S-Corporations with a fiscal year ending 9/30/2024, you would need to file Form 1120-S for the 2024 tax year, and this return would be due on March 15, 2025 (or the next business day if that falls on a weekend or holiday). The return covers your business activity from October 1, 2023 through September 30, 2024.

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Ravi Malhotra

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So if I understand correctly, even though most of my fiscal year (Oct 2023-Sept 2024) took place during 2023, I still file it as a 2024 return because the END date is in 2024? And just to confirm, this means I'll be filing this return by March 15, 2025?

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That's exactly right. The year of the tax return is determined by when your fiscal year ends, not when most of the activity happened. So your fiscal year ending September 30, 2024 is reported on a 2024 tax return. Yes, you'll need to file by March 15, 2025. If you need more time, you can file Form 7004 for an automatic six-month extension, which would extend your deadline to September 15, 2025.

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Zara Mirza

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Quick tip on fiscal year S-Corps that my CPA told me: Even though your S-Corp files based on its fiscal year, remember that you as the shareholder still report your K-1 income on your personal tax return for the calendar year in which the S-Corp's fiscal year ends. So if your S-Corp has a 9/30/2024 fiscal year end, you'll report that K-1 income on your personal 2024 return (due April 2025). This mismatch between fiscal year and calendar year reporting is where a lot of people get confused!

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Luca Russo

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Does this also apply to estimated tax payments? My S-Corp fiscal year ends 6/30 and I never know when I'm supposed to make my quarterly payments based on that K-1 income.

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Zara Mirza

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Yes, it absolutely affects your estimated tax payments too. For a 6/30 fiscal year end, you would report that income on your personal return for that calendar year. But here's the tricky part - you might not even know what your K-1 income will be until after some estimated payment deadlines have passed. For example, if your S-Corp's fiscal year ends 6/30/2024, you won't have the final K-1 numbers until after that date, but your Q1 and Q2 estimated payments for 2024 would already be due (April 15 and June 15). In this case, you'd need to estimate based on prior years or current projections. The IRS does have a "safe harbor" provision where if you pay 100% of last year's tax (or 110% if your AGI was over $150,000), you won't face penalties for underpayment.

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Nia Harris

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure your initial S election (Form 2553) properly stated your fiscal year! If you originally filed with a different fiscal year than what you're actually using, that could cause major problems. I made this mistake and ended up having to file Form 1128 to request a change in accounting period because my practice didn't match what I had elected. Cost me a bunch in accounting fees to fix it.

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GalaxyGazer

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How do you check what fiscal year you elected? I inherited this business from my dad and have no idea what he originally filed for our S election.

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Mateo Sanchez

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Just a heads up from someone who got this wrong: if your S-Corp has a fiscal year end different from Dec 31, you MUST have a valid business purpose for that fiscal year or use a "natural business year" where at least 25% of your gross receipts come in the last 2 months of your fiscal year. The IRS has been cracking down on S-Corps with "arbitrary" fiscal years. I had to switch back to calendar year because I couldn't justify my March fiscal year end when they questioned it during an audit. Expensive lesson learned!

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This is really helpful information! I'm dealing with a similar situation but with a December 31st fiscal year end for my S-Corp. Just to make sure I understand the pattern correctly - since my fiscal year ends December 31, 2024, I would file a 2024 tax return by March 15, 2025, covering the period January 1, 2024 through December 31, 2024. The confusing part for me is that this means my S-Corp return and my personal return would both be for the same tax year (2024), but my K-1 income from the S-Corp gets reported on my personal return. Is there any timing issue I should be aware of when both returns are due around the same time in 2025? Also, @Mateo Sanchez, your point about needing a valid business purpose for non-calendar fiscal years is concerning. How do you determine if your fiscal year qualifies as a "natural business year"? My business is seasonal and most of our revenue does come in the last few months of the calendar year, so I'm wondering if that helps justify the December 31st end date.

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Actually, if your S-Corp has a December 31st fiscal year end, you're essentially on a calendar year basis, which is the default and doesn't require any special business purpose justification! The IRS only scrutinizes non-calendar fiscal years (like March, June, September ends, etc.). For your timing question - yes, both your S-Corp return (Form 1120-S) and your personal return would be due around the same time. The S-Corp return is due March 15, 2025, and your personal return is due April 15, 2025. The key is that the S-Corp needs to issue your K-1 by March 15 so you have the information to complete your personal return. Many S-Corp owners file an extension on their personal return to give themselves more time after receiving the K-1. Since you mentioned your business is seasonal with most revenue in the last few months, December 31st makes perfect sense as your fiscal year end anyway - you're capturing your full business cycle in one tax year.

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Sofia Torres

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Great question! I was in the exact same boat when I first set up my S-Corp with a fiscal year end. The rule is straightforward once you understand it: you file based on the calendar year in which your fiscal year ENDS, not when it begins. So for your fiscal year ending September 30, 2024, you'll file a 2024 tax return (Form 1120-S) due March 15, 2025. This return covers your business activity from October 1, 2023 through September 30, 2024. One thing that helped me keep this straight: think of it as "which year am I closing the books in?" Since you're closing your books in 2024 (September 30, 2024), that's your 2024 tax year. Also, don't forget that even though your S-Corp files for 2024, you'll report your K-1 income on your personal 2024 return too (due April 15, 2025). The timing works out since your S-Corp return is due first and should generate your K-1 in time for your personal filing. If you need more time, you can always file Form 7004 for an automatic 6-month extension on the S-Corp return. Good luck with your second year - it gets easier once you get the rhythm down!

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This is such a clear explanation, thank you! I'm also in my second year with an S-Corp and was getting confused by all the different dates floating around. The "which year am I closing the books in" approach really helps clarify it. I have a follow-up question though - what happens if my fiscal year spans across two calendar years but I need to make estimated tax payments? For example, if my S-Corp fiscal year runs October 2023 to September 2024, when do I make estimated payments for the income I'll eventually report on my 2024 personal return?

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